UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

What do you think will be the outcome of the CAS hearing?

  • Two-year ban upheld

    Votes: 197 13.1%
  • Ban reduced to one year

    Votes: 422 28.2%
  • Ban overturned and City exonerated

    Votes: 815 54.4%
  • Other

    Votes: 65 4.3%

  • Total voters
    1,499
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When UEFA leaks a lot of things like that, it is usually what they intend to do.

As what stated by your club, it is disappointing but not surprising. UEFA will go all the way and let you test their decision with CAS.

But i don't think UEFA will go further. They will accept it if CAS rule in your favor.
I believe this is the must probable outcome, however if cas rule the investigation if you can call it that was prejudice and city can prove uefa were the source of the leaks that full civil action is taken in Europe and the US. The commercial damage potential could easily be 5-10 years of chumps league prize money depending on how good the lawyers are and expect city’s to be top end.
 
I find it incredible that the BBC in.s latest release seem to.know a complete breakdown of what City have allegedly been accused of to the details of what will happen next and what this Belgium geezer had referred back to UEFA, this is definitely I stich up and glad to heat that at the end of this report the BBC state City have three of the mast prestigious law firms already working.pn this.

Roan also claiming to be in the know about what UEFA intend to do - I hope City are going to be calling all these people from the media as witnesses in any court hearings because UEFA seem as leaky as a watering can.
 
But the whole thing of fair market value is a joke as well.

I'm still referring to PSG case but FFP bodies are still disagreeing among themselves about a contract of PSG that has been known for 7 years ! They used several external audit companies and they still fail to give a value.

And let's be serious, MU is a big PR machine but at the time, when they got their Chevrolet deal, it was not at a fair market value either. The guy responsible for the deal got sacked : https://www.autonews.com/article/20...-manchester-united-deal-turning-into-a-fiasco

And wait for it ! Two agencies (Repucom et Octagon) was valueing QTA deal around 123 000 euros and 2,78 millions euros yearly according to the Football Leaks. I mean seriously, what kind of club will sign a 123 000 € deal ? Certainly not one of the size and with the brand of PSG. Just think in reverse : how much money Qatar should have paid to get the publicity they got from PSG with traditional PR ? Certainly not 123 k€/year.

And as i pointed out, even the big clubs have some untangled relationships with their sponsors. Bayern with Allianz, Audi, Adidas. They are not related parties by definition but they do have some deep relationship being shareholders of Bayern Munich.
Yep, reading what you described earlier with UEFA trying for a 3rd time to devalue your fair market value, is exactly why I'm glad they have not been able to establish the related party link. That seems blatantly biased and possibly corrupt that they can get away with that.
 
Sorry but I have never managed to upload pics etc on this site but may I ask if anyone has heard of Eurojust ? I just found this article on the forbes website, I have not heard of this agency before but these geezers look a bit serious. If the link dont work maybe just copy and paste into your browser. There is a video of a hearing regarding leaked documents which may be of interest. Its all a bit James Bondish to me.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bobbym...nchester-citys-next-big-problem/#7f8d2a485d19
 
agreed, and i'm already tired of it,
uefa controls enough without having the right to essentially run every football club in europe.
a MAN pays his money for a club and takes his chances. no one asked anybody to buy a club ever.
luckily in football terms, proportionately, very few teams fail.
either a business can stay afloat or it can't.
It's been that way since we've been enlightened,
coming out of the dark ages.

We have an owner who has invested in a community of a city in a foreign country and positively enhanced for the better pretty much every aspect in that area for youth to adults alike, with opportunities undreamed of before. not to mention the worldwide followers.
If a man has the personal resources to fund all of that and provide the joy that it does then it's his business and no one else.
furthermore his business should be heralded, and not tried to be torn down.
makes no sense.

All well and good but do you realise he’s an Arab and using dirty oil money. Unlike the wonderful Sir John Moores who encouraged poor people to gamble, on the pretence they could win loads of money, and used his profits from it to bankroll LFC
 
What's the worst that can happen?

It looks like a one year CL ban. Even if that happens and we can't overturn it then it's hardly a fatal blow. The upside is that the softly softly, take a pinch approach is well and truly over regardless of the outcome now and I welcome that. From now on we'll do what the fuck our owner wants to do by any means he chooses.

Let's enjoy the ride, even if there are one or two bumps on the way.

A year ban is a big deal.

First, you lose the CL money.
Then you also lose a lot of sponsoring money + stadium attendance money.
But more importantly than the rest, it is a direct slap in the face of the club and your owners. You are branded as cheats (well you were branded before, but now people has a "reason" to do so).
Your owners wouldn't accept that infamous reputation and it would alter your development a bit (you would still grow as you keep winning but some casual could become anti-fans, some sponsor could be deterred to invest as much money as they otherwise would, etc.).

I agree it's not great but like I commented it's not a fatal blow either. I think that even if it happens and UEFA can make it stick then our owner will find ways and means to replace the money lost.
 
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