UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[Jazzman]

Let’s not start denouncing other clubs history, every club has history since the day they were formed.its not all about trophies and besides we don’t wanna turn into the rags or scousers.

I agree wholeheartedly. On that note we should not forget that Villa screwed us over in 1905 though. Never forget, never forgive !

 

[91:23]

As far as putting a nail in the coffin of utd etc, I think we will all take that.

In isolation though, talking about Newcastle, then I have no sympathy. They are a self righteous bunch of wankers who sleep on a myth of excellent and loyal support. This has already been proven to be a fabrication.

Throughout the years they have always given off a vibe of woe is fucking me, we deserve to be in the top 4 and winning trophies etc because we are a 'sleeping giant'. Small time version of always the victim fc.

One thing we had throughout our barren years was self respect and humility. We never had a sense of entitlement and in the end took the piss out of ourselves.

I couldn't attribute that strength to any Newcastle fan I have ever met, and I've met a few.

And throughout our barren years...... WE TURNED UP!

 

[City & Blue Brazil]

And throughout our barren years...... WE TURNED UP!

8000 v Swindon in the 60's

 

[Henkeman]

Villa voted against Premier League FFP didn't they?

 

[canyerdogputoutafire]

Villa voted against Premier League FFP didn't they?

I remember it being; City, Villa, Southampton and West Ham. I maybe wrong. I was. It was West brom instead of West ham plus Fulham and Swansea.

 

[SatOnTheWall]

How did Newcastle vote?

 

[hello]

I remember it being; City, Villa, Southampton and West Ham. I maybe wrong. I was. It was West brom instead of West ham plus Fulham and Swansea.

I was shocked reading west ham at first, couldn't envisage the pron duo doing that.

 

[bobom]

That's nothing like what I'm saying. You're just twisting my words. Try checking out the original post of hello to whom my post was a reply and then put it into context.

I did read it. "I'm sick of Villa fans already, etc..."

I don't mean to put words into your mouth, I just think there are parallels to our own club' experience, that's all.

 

[Chris in London]

Stereotyping a whole clubs supporters is only done by people who believe in astrology :-)

Typical Taurus, always looking for a fight.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

And throughout our barren years...... WE TURNED UP!

Not always, to be fair.

 

[DTeacher]

Typical Taurus, always looking for a fight.

No bull?

 

[SWP's back]

Stereotyping a whole clubs supporters is only done by people who believe in astrology :-)

Liverpool fans are cûnts

 

[Chris in London]

Liverpool fans are cûnts

I think you mean Liverpool fans are ****s


(It's written in the stars)

 

[SWP's back]

I think you mean Liverpool fans are ****s


(It's written in the stars)

Wahey

 

[GortonBlue62]

I have generally found that Villa fans are mostly self-entitled and arrogant unlike the Baggies, Wolves, and even Birmingham City fans (except their hooligan element). I don't welcome Villa back at all.

They are the West Midland Rags.

 

[crazyg]

8000 v Swindon in the 60's

That was before we were shit. And it was 8015 - i was there.

;-)

 

[paulchapo]

How has this post turned into a discussion about Villa fans???

 

[BlueRockape]

Any news on FFP? Rather than handbags ;)

 

[Metalartin]

Glass houses / stones. We're a good example of a club that has a proud history but (until 2011) no recent success. Villa are another example as are Preston NE, Wolves, Sunderland, Newcastle...

Success and history shouldn't be confused. A club can have loads of history and still not have been successful recently. Denying that puts us on a par with Liverpool and the Rags, quite honestly.

All true, the trouble is every one of those clubs has it's section of entitled fans(some sections larger than others) talking about what they "deserve" over the clubs that are currently in the top 6. All based on a subjective view of their own history compared to others.

Regardless of that it doesn't work that and it would be unfair if it did, it's the same mistake United and Liverpool fans make. What a club did in the past has been and gone(when a few years becomes decades), it normally guarantees a large loyal fanbase and that's your lot... No divine right to the top table or silverware over others who have fared better in recent years.

 

[Newman Noggs]

Villa voted against Premier League FFP didn't they?

Yes.