Exposing the hypocrisy of journalists

Are you allowed to record people without their permission?
Seems a bit weird to me.

It is not basic decency, but I think you are allowed. It would not be permissible as evidence in a court dispute, but this wont get that far. It 'just' damages reputations.
Very odd thing to do.
 
Some of you already know that I’m Ray (ex Man City Fan TV).
I’m not here to answer any questions. There’s plenty out there in the public domain for you to look at for yourselves.
It was interesting reading over 300 comments last night catching up on people’s thoughts.
It’s concerning that some people want to simply make things up here and on twitter and get involved with idle gossip, some of which can lead to dangerous situations. Does that make them much better than Nick Harris??? (Ok, no-one can be as bad as him, but surely you get my point). Because they are blues and you may know them, does that make it alright? Plenty of misinformed people commenting here and, as I said before, it can lead to dangerous situations.
I wasn’t involved at all with the Skype call. Rabin has told other people that himself and Andy also said so last night on his video. Nick Harris was talking out of his backside when he said Andy had DM’d him the video as can be seen by his subsequent deletion of his own tweets. Even Andy wouldn’t have been that stupid to have sent the video to Nick Harris as he’d have been more of a marked man than he currently is, with some blues threatening to fill him in. Good luck with that.
For all of you that took pot shots at the channel (and quite a few after never having watched any videos) or pot shots at the way people look or sound etc.), it’s an interesting stat that, at one point when videos were being posted on these very pages, I believe that the largest external % of views were being generated via this forum. So lots of you were watching the videos. And quite regularly too.
The channel has 8,500 subscribers and only lost 30 subscribers in the last 24 hours. So quite a few people are still happy to continue with the channel. There’s 8.5k people happy enough to be represented by Andy and Man City Fan TV. Are you dissing all 8.5k of those City fans?
People may want to ask me why I left the channel so suddenly after Rabin’s tweets or for any other ‘juicy’ information but I’m not for spilling any beans. I’ve said the two people involved can say what’s happened if they want to as long as it’s truthful.
I’m sure you’ll never get the full facts about what happened since I don’t know them myself (I wasn’t party to their private messaging before and after the Skype call) and each party could be seen to have too much to lose.
But don’t be like Nick Harris and the other media hacks in looking to attack the messenger because you have an agenda or you think it’s fun to join in. It’s far better for blues to be honest and stick together and hit back at the hacks rather than at each other.

Andy shouldn't have recorded Rabin without his prior permission, if only he'd had the decency to ask beforehand non of this would have happened?
 
I think it’s quite natural to defend when being attacked. And the channel was attacked from pretty much the day it started simply for existing.

I find in some professions (my own including) it’s better PR to show a bit of humility and maybe eat some humble pie when there seems to be an obvious party hurt or aggrieved (rightly or wrongly )
In yours and Andy chosen hobby / venture Id say yours was one of the professionals that could do with good PR... think if you gaged the support for the supposed injured party on here you would see that ... refusing to be the bigger man or accept any responsibility will in fact make you look like the haks we are trying to stop destroying our club ..
I personally quite like the jib of you on camera and think you got some assets that may make a decent viewing (dodgy sunglasses being one of them ) and I will admit that I’ve only seen the content of mcfctv on here before yesterday .
You are in front here as rightly or wrongly it seems you Have showed some morals in the Rabin situation and moved on to your own thing .. maybe this was coincidence maybe not , but I honestly look forward to seeing how your Chanel develops and wish you well..
 
To be fair, there are still 141.4k people following City Watch despite him being a nonce and there being no posts since Feb as a result. So I don’t think the follower count should be used as evidence that people still support the channel. People just generally can’t be arsed clicking unfollow, despite it taking no time at all.

...despite him being a nonce... Hahaha ffs
 
I find in some professions (my own including) it’s better PR to show a bit of humility and maybe eat some humble pie when there seems to be an obvious party hurt or aggrieved (rightly or wrongly )
In yours and Andy chosen hobby / venture Id say yours was one of the professionals that could do with good PR... think if you gaged the support for the supposed injured party on here you would see that ... refusing to be the bigger man or accept any responsibility will in fact make you look like the haks we are trying to stop destroying our club ..
I personally quite like the jib of you on camera and think you got some assets that may make a decent viewing (dodgy sunglasses being one of them ) and I will admit that I’ve only seen the content of mcfctv on here before yesterday .
You are in front here as rightly or wrongly it seems you Have showed some morals in the Rabin situation and moved on to your own thing .. maybe this was coincidence maybe not , but I honestly look forward to seeing how your Chanel develops and wish you well..
It wasn’t a coincidence I left shortly after Rabin’s tweets came out. I’m not looking for this to become a drip feed tit for tat with more info slowly coming out. Once I knew which way this was going to go, I wanted no more part of it.
 
It wasn’t a coincidence I left shortly after Rabin’s tweets came out. I’m not looking for this to become a drip feed tit for tat with more info slowly coming out. Once I knew which way this was going to go, I wanted no more part of it.

So Ray,what are the plans for the new channel then,lurking around Blue Moon Cafe will be a no go area on matchdays ??? That stomping ground has been taken haha

Clash of the vloggers eh,could be amusing all the same,Cheesy,you,Andy,and that other mon I've seen matchdays
 
It wasn’t a coincidence I left shortly after Rabin’s tweets came out. I’m not looking for this to become a drip feed tit for tat with more info slowly coming out. Once I knew which way this was going to go, I wanted no more part of it.

I think you come out of this with some credit and look forward to your new x rated you tube channel “50p Shades of Ray”.
 
Andy could have ended this last night by saying i have deleted the video and no hard feelings,by hanging onto it he has kept this going and harris is feeling vindicated,i think @Rabin hasn't done anything wrong,perhaps he felt he needed some more support in his efforts and agreed to do the interview,andy has handed Rabin on a plate to Harries,he needs to delete it and ignore tweets from journo's

Rabin has deleted his account on here as well now,shame
The more I see from this Andy guy the less impressed with him I am
 
So let me get this straight?

A blue absolutely ruins every single media outlet to show a clear agenda against City.. and then a fellow blue videos him without him knowing and sends it to the press?

What the fuck man. Sly ****
 

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