UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[VOOMER]

Josep Maria Bartomeu , who happens to still be under investigation for the Neymar transfer.

 

[Burtonblue]

You could certainly understand the displeasure if our money had been generated through criminal activities, but as any money that has been invested in our club was generated by the world’s football fans and the rest of the globe’s populus filling up at petrol stations there is definitely a poetic justice to it.
In a dream would I would love our owners to call out the UEFA cartel out for what it is and accept a lengthy ban but I don’t think that will happen. Too much to lose for us.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

My wife : "Josep Maria Bartomeu should fuck off and let UEFA do their business without all the bias commentary"

 

[Big Dave Watson]

Lipton insisted we would be banned by FIFA within 12 days for the illegal signing of underage players.

Whilst I expect that to happen (probably for Jan and next summer windows), it is clear his timelines are bollocks.

Couldn’t give a f**k about the champions league, this is what annoys me more.

That given all the scrutiny on us and the fact everybody is out to get us we have still been stupid enough to get caught doing this. This makes me angry that we have been so amateur in this respect.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Keep on reading Sane is on low wages. According to one of the Der Spiegel articles he was promised £24.5mil for his first 3 years which is approaching £160m per week.
The extract is below.

Success at any price: There is no better description for the strategy pursued by Man City executives. Bayern Munich, Germany's wealthiest team, was apparently unable to make a better offer to De Bruyne, nor were they able to secure the services of German national team player Leroy Sané. When the native of Essen, Germany moved to Manchester a year after De Bruyne, the team made him a promise: If Sané earned less than 24.5 million pounds in his first three years with the club, City would wire him the difference. In other words, Sané -- a 20-year-old at the time -- was guaranteed a salary of the equivalent of 28 million euros for three seasons. Germany's top league doesn't stand a chance.

As if. What a crock of ****.

I can't say how I know, but Leroy earns £65k a week.

In actual fact, even the new offer which has been sat in front of him for 15 months isn't even worth double that unless bonuses are then taken into account.

Still nowhere near £9m per annum claims made De Spewgel.

For context, City want him to be in the same cash bracket as the renewals of Gabby and Ederson (£110k a week)

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Thanks. I hadn't read it as you did.

I don't think that strongly suggests much other that they are irritated that somewhere in the process there is a breach of confidentiality. I don't think it overtly refers to rivals or committee, I think it refers the media as being intent on damage.

I don't think there is any implication that the IC are biassed in their action - any such implication would have been far more obvious, I think. However, I also think it would have been unwise to say it publically, and thus they wouldn't have.

I think most accept that there is pressure on UEFA to investigate and charge if they can find a justifiable reason; I don't think that makes the IC corrupted - instead, I'd put that down to referring to the pressure to have the investigation started at the outset, and to do something by the date. I'm not finding the right words now for clarity, but I think there's a difference between having the outcome specifically directed, and direction to try having an outcome (which would need hitting the statutory date).

We'll eventually find out if and when UEFA takes any action. I think I am a bit more pessimistic than you. In terms of possible corruption what we do know is:
The recommendation of the invesigating committee to ban us was leaked to the New York Times and published the day before our treble-winning match.
There are only eight people on that committee and it includes people who may have a conflict of interest with Manchester City.
Khaldoon referred to people briefing the media in his interview and implied that we usually found out about it whenever it happened.
The confidential information could only have come out of that committee and (probably through a third party) reached the New York Times

Khaldoon could have chosen to make no detailed public comments but he didn't and I think that's because we have something up our sleeve. Let's see what happens.

 

[waspish]

He has 2 years left which means we can park him in the stands, play him for the u23s, drop him from the CL squad, take away his locker etc. and still get a good price for him next summer off the back of Euro 2020 which he'll be guaranteed a place at because Germany have no one else.

That wont happen though with the way we do things but hey You never know we might wont to make an example.

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

I can't say how I know, but Leroy earns £65k a week.

In actual fact, even the new offer which has been sat in front of him for 15 months isn't even worth double that unless bonuses are then taken into account.

Still nowhere near £9m per annum claims made De Spewgel.

For context, City want him to be in the same cash bracket as the renewals of Gabby and Ederson (£110k a week)

Certainly makes the money some of the dross at OT are on look even more ridiculous .

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

That wont happen though with the way we do things but hey You never know we might wont to make an example.

From what I remember, we fined Tevez £6m and didn't pay him for a number of months after he fucked off to Argentina, trying to force a move through to AC Milan.

He was also forced to apologise before he played a part in the title run-in.

I don't think Khaldoon is someone you should ever make an enemy of. (Especially when he is such a positive ally for most)

 

[MCC]

We'll eventually find out if and when UEFA takes any action. I think I am a bit more pessimistic than you. In terms of possible corruption what we do know is:
The recommendation of the invesigating committee to ban us was leaked to the New York Times and published the day before our treble-winning match.
There are only eight people on that committee and it includes people who may have a conflict of interest with Manchester City.
Khaldoon referred to people briefing the media in his interview and implied that we usually found out about it whenever it happened.
The confidential information could only have come out of that committee and (probably through a third party) reached the New York Times

Khaldoon could have chosen to make no detailed public comments but he didn't and I think that's because we have something up our sleeve. Let's see what happens.

We have to something up our sleeve.

 

[VOOMER]

Couldn’t give a f**k about the champions league, this is what annoys me more.

That given all the scrutiny on us and the fact everybody is out to get us we have still been stupid enough to get caught doing this. This makes me angry that we have been so amateur in this respect.

Lipton hates out club almost as much as he hates our owners.

 

[Burtonblue]

In a dream world this would be how to destroy UEFA:
Form a new football association funded by big Arab state money
Set up a new World Club competition where only the champions of each top leagues from each continent enter. For Europe the top 16 leagues would each be represented by their champions in a knock out competition.
Entice clubs to enter this instead of the CL with huge financial incentives.
At the end the winners from each continent would play each other in a mini-league to determine the winner.
Now that I would pay to watch....

 

[Big Dave Watson]

Lipton hates out club almost as much as he hates our owners.

Not about Lipton mate. It’s about the fact we must have broken the rules on young players. Tolmie seems to think we are getting a ban for that. I was saying that it’s annoying if we did this given that we are under such scrutiny.

 

[LucahArchie10]

Said it the 1st season I watched Leroy..

AWSOME, world at his feet but 100% new out of all our stars he would be the 1 to fuck off.

Pep new who he could count on in those last 2-3 months & he wasn't at the races when given opportunity.

He is a wonderfull player but for me he has attitude, fitness & definately family problems that out way his good points.

He wants out so unless Bayern give us 120m then make him wait.

 

[FootballSense]

Josep Maria Bartomeu , who happens to still be under investigation for the Neymar transfer.

Ah, Josep, the one who "wants to change the Champions League for the better", but actually means he wants more games in order to make Barca even richer :
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-champions-league-liverpool-manchester-united

 

[dickie davies]

Ah, Josep, the one who "wants to change the Champions League for the better", but actually means he wants more games in order to make Barca even richer :
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...-champions-league-liverpool-manchester-united

Or knows that as Messi approaches retirement, that's the end of the golden age of Spanish football

 

[doobyedoobye]

I can't say how I know, but Leroy earns £65k a week.

In actual fact, even the new offer which has been sat in front of him for 15 months isn't even worth double that unless bonuses are then taken into account.

Still nowhere near £9m per annum claims made De Spewgel.

For context, City want him to be in the same cash bracket as the renewals of Gabby and Ederson (£110k a week)

I'm assuming 110k is considerably lower that the number Bayern will have been whispering in his ear

 

[waspish]

From what I remember, we fined Tevez £6m and didn't pay him for a number of months after he fucked off to Argentina, trying to force a move through to AC Milan.

He was also forced to apologise before he played a part in the title run-in.

I don't think Khaldoon is someone you should ever make an enemy of. (Especially when he is such a positive ally for most)

Yeah fair enough and once he apologised he was back in the team!

Sane situation is totally different! Sane has done nothing wrong apart from not signing his contract. A threat of making him sit in the stands for 2 years what will that actually do? Its difficult situation for the club, sell him for less than his market value is worth? Carry on as we are doing now then he leaves for nowt? Threat of not playing him for next 2 years?

Personally if its true that his family are in on it with Bayern Id get as much as we can this summer for him and seeing he only want bayern it negotiating and getting as near as possible to the 100m we can! Probably end up with 70m+ add ons up to 85m for him.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I'm assuming 110k is considerably lower that the number Bayern will have been whispering in his ear

Don't know, bud.

It's certain, however, that every penny Bayern try to save on the transfer will eventually go in his pocket.

 

[KS55]

Some journos are wanting to smell blood in the water and are simply chumming it to keep the narrative going when nothing is happening during the summer football months.

It had already been established this was more a marker by City, rather than a fillabuster.

As for Lipton, he wrote two months ago a back page lead entitled 'Ban City', which resulted in the club getting angry and essentially writing the Sun's inside spread follow-up the very next day.

Lipton insisted we would be banned by FIFA within 12 days for the illegal signing of underage players.

Whilst I expect that to happen (probably for Jan and next summer windows), it is clear his timelines are bollocks.

There is no illusion from City, this is a three-pronged attack to damage us both reputationally, and to hamstring us for a year or so for others to catch-up.

I find it very interesting Bayern have been keeping their powder dry in making an official bid for Sane.

They are being briefed by their pals at Uefa at what might be coming down the pipe while Leroy is on holiday and think they can kick us in the bollocks with a low ball offer.
Fucking Sane's family are in on it.

Wow, family in on it. Get rid.