You don't seem to understand even the basics of how negotiations are conducted as was evidenced recently in the other thread (I think that you were one of those)I think we have an established negotiating position and it has meant our negotiators have been "chatting shit" for three years.
You do embarrass yourself - do you not even read threads before jumping in with your generally irrelevant bollocks?
You say:
"In the 2010 general election, Brown participated in three leaders' debate...…"
Correct, spot on!!!!
That is what I and others are saying - in GEs debates are appropriate - in party leadership elections they are not
Through your lack of comprehension you actually prove the point I and others are making - did you intend to do that or were you just jumping in and being clumsy?
To be fair - I had forgotten about those debates -
All the screaming and ranting about fat womanising liars and no TV debating is simply down to remainers now
cacking it that Johnson looks like being PM. The debate argument is being tried by everyone in the hope that he'll
balls something up and not get selected, which I understand, but I don't think the Tory membership will concern themselves
with it. There is a massive elephant in the room, which isn't being addressed with the frothing and ranting about Boris,
and how he's every kind of ****, and that is the phenomenal rise of the Brexit party. If the Conservatives fail to get this
country out of the EU by Halloween, one thing he's dead right about is that they will be utterly annihilated in a future GE,
if he manages it,and it's a big if, and it's out of all three main EU tenets, SM, CU and ECJ, then Farage's party is dead.
Leavers want Johnson, if not they'll have Farage, I know forecasts can be haphazard, but I wouldn't bet on Labour getting
an overall majority, far from it, which would mean, decisively, that the Commons would be changed radically.
There is simply nowhere else to go if you want out of the EU, Stewart is a nice bloke, but just wants May's effort,
as do other remain Tories, the party knows, however that that would be the end of them, so Boris it is.
So I will break it down for those that cannot read more than a few words at a time:
1. How many people voted to appoint Nicola Sturgeon?
Just provide a number in answer
2. How many TV debates did she 'win' - or even take part in before she secured that appointment?
Just provide a number in answer
3. After all these months of you guys wanting to keep the status quo - surely you should not want to see a change in the way things have been done for so long?
the meaning of Status quo is: "......the existing state of affairs, especially regarding social or political issues."
So it is used here in the context that you have been banging on for 3 years the UK to Remain in the existing state of affairs - i.e. in the EU and not to embrace change - so why, with regards to the Conservative party Leadership election, do you want change that now?
Was it really that hard to understand? - do you need pictures? perhaps someone can help with a suitable explanatory meme
PFI in the NHS has landed virtually every trust in the NHS in England with huge debt at really high interest rates. Terrible decision.I am expecting some to disagree with this - it will identify those that do not understand what happened during that period
The only part that really needs correcting is that you should include Brown on that ticket - he was the leading enthusiast for PFI and the level of real debt and damage that he and Blair caused is largely not understood by the majority of people in the UK IMO. Blair was responsible for letting Brown essentially run the country whilst he was playing global statesman
For me Boris is an individual that does indeed lie and is inherently a shallow person - but there are levels of lying and Blair was/is a liar at the highest and most damaging levels - such a self-serving ****
PFI in the NHS has landed virtually every trust in the NHS in England with huge debt at really high interest rates. Terrible decision.
Yep he started and Blair government expanded it rapidly. Terrible decision I am sure you agree.we know .....that bloody John Major and his policies eh?
Ha ha - you really are 'a sort' - I feel devastated by your cutting remarksNo, I was jumping in and being factual.
Ah! you forgot about the Labour leadership debates in 2015 and the fact there were no debates in 2007, because Brown was elected unopposed.
I suppose you forgot the seven debates that took place between Corbyn and Smith in the 2016 Labour leadership contest as well.
I think it is fair to say that you have a terrible memory and an embarrassing one, as the things you forget are directly relevant to the things you have a very strong opinion about.
It's the mark of a persons character when they can freely admit that they've fucked up, you've clearly fucked up, and yet you still persist with your bombastic nonsense.
That tells me something that is glaringly obvious to everyone other than yourself, that your ignorance is only surpassed by your pomposity.
The days of big majorities or indeed any majorities are largely gone. They were going before Brexit anyway. Electing Boris has sod all to do with Brexit. They are electing Boris in the hope he can attract voters to stay or come back to the Tory Party in the event Brexit goes tits up. Spoiler. It will go tits up.
And as much as everyone bangs on about what ‘leavers’ want everyone forgets what ‘Remainers’ want and an election strategy based on only half the equation will not end well. Just ask Theresa May.
Ha ha - you really are 'a sort' - I feel devastated by your cutting remarks
First time on here you have been able to score any point - even a cheap one - that I can remember
The bottom line on this thread is simple and unchanged by this
The CP rules on appointing a leader have been in place for a long time - and you and others are just rattled because you are worried that we might end up leaving the EU
You have scored a point - it is satisfying actually that scoring a point makes you so exultant
I think that it was you recently that had a rant about my comments about the UK should have been preparing for no-deal since the referendum
That just aptly demonstrates that you need to make the most of your occasional cheap point given that so much of what you post is just your blinkered and bias induced bollocks
Anyway - glad to have given you a moment of excitement
Moment I say? You will probably dine out on this for ages and reread your devastating post many times as you salivate in your onesie
People (mainly left-wingers) point to the Conservatives introducing PFIPFI in the NHS has landed virtually every trust in the NHS in England with huge debt at really high interest rates. Terrible decision.
Apart from who introduced it - do you have any understanding at all about who actually used it?we know .....that bloody John Major and his policies eh?
And - who maximised its use?Too much time is taken up with talking about personalities and too little with politics.
PFI is one of the key overlaps between one nation Toryism and third way Blairism, a handy little card trick to fund public investment without raising taxes and the debt kept off the books.
And - who maximised its use?
Who used it to cause so much damage?
For you - it is those 'third-way Blairites' - for the rest of us - it was the Labour government directed by Brown
I don't think your Brexit dream is worth turning us like the British Empire of old and we forcing 40+% of Northern Ireland into a union under duress during turbulent times.Its the only solution to Brexit.......and the people of Northern Ireland want to remain in the Eu so it might (only might) just pass. Johnson (i wish people would stop calling him Boris or Bozo as it humanises him) would not be adverse to throwing an entire country under the bus to deliver the 'Sunny Uplands' and earn his mates £20 trillion (for which they would be forever thankful)
You're a mug mate if you think Johnson is going to take us out of the EU on 31st October come what may.All the screaming and ranting about fat womanising liars and no TV debating is simply down to remainers now
cacking it that Johnson looks like being PM. The debate argument is being tried by everyone in the hope that he'll
balls something up and not get selected, which I understand, but I don't think the Tory membership will concern themselves
with it. There is a massive elephant in the room, which isn't being addressed with the frothing and ranting about Boris,
and how he's every kind of ****, and that is the phenomenal rise of the Brexit party. If the Conservatives fail to get this
country out of the EU by Halloween, one thing he's dead right about is that they will be utterly annihilated in a future GE,
if he manages it,and it's a big if, and it's out of all three main EU tenets, SM, CU and ECJ, then Farage's party is dead.
Leavers want Johnson, if not they'll have Farage, I know forecasts can be haphazard, but I wouldn't bet on Labour getting
an overall majority, far from it, which would mean, decisively, that the Commons would be changed radically.
There is simply nowhere else to go if you want out of the EU, Stewart is a nice bloke, but just wants May's effort,
as do other remain Tories, the party knows, however that that would be the end of them, so Boris it is.