VAR (PL introduction 2019)

An absolute farce of a system that will create chaos next season. The only possible way it will work would be for each team to have a limited number of appeals it could take to VAR during a game. But far better to scrap it before it kills the game stone dead.
 
Does VAR come into it if a penalty taker does a stuttering run??

I know a player cannot stop dead when mid into a penalty kick but when they do that silly thing like Pogba for example, will that be allowed??

Also is a keeper allowed to sort of move right and left across the line trying to put the kicker off?? So many more questions than answers.

I also didn't realise if the penalty is saved and it rebounds to the penalty taker who puts it in it isn't allowed.
 
I predict Keepers will change their approach, you’ll get them starting a step behind the line and timing it so that they step forward and onto the line as the penalty is taken. This will then lead to more elaborate stuttered run ups from the penalty takers which will in turn cause another rule change as it becomes more and more farcical.

People need to stop blaming VAR though when the problem is the rules and the interpretation of the rules. The VAR technology is working perfectly.

Putting my tin foil hat on for a second and joining The everybody’s against us mob, I wouldn’t be overly surprised if they’re purposely sabotaging themselves here so they can justifiably scrap the system. Less money to be made if there’s less chance of corruption.


Also is a keeper allowed to sort of move right and left across the line trying to put the kicker off?? So many more questions than answers.

I also didn't realise if the penalty is saved and it rebounds to the penalty taker who puts it in it isn't allowed.

Whilst I was aware of the rule regarding two touches, i was thinking at the time that I don’t recall ever seeing that happen, which can’t be true. Players kicking the ball onto their own leg seems to be a more common occurrence than hitting the post and putting in the rebound, at least in my memory it is.

Could be wrong but I believe the keeper can move anywhere across the line and above it just not forward or behind. Think of it as a graph, you can move along the X and Y axis but not Z
 
An absolute farce of a system that will create chaos next season. The only possible way it will work would be for each team to have a limited number of appeals it could take to VAR during a game. But far better to scrap it before it kills the game stone dead.
The danger is that the rules as they are and will be applied to the penalty kick next season have the potential to bring VAR and indeed the game into disrepute. You are right this could end up a complete farce. Players will be attempting to gain unfair advantage by kicking the ball deliberately at the hand to gain a penalty. The same player could then blast the ball high over the bar into row Z but VAR will detect that the keeper was 10 mm off his line and the kick can be retaken. Now leaving aside all the time that will be taken up by this farce just think how you would feel driving home from the South coast after dropping points to the likes of that. Before it is too late they need to look again at the rules and look again at the circumstances under which it is permissible to use VAR.
 
According to the BBC, The Premier League will not use video assistant referees in 2019-20 to rule on goalkeepers moving off their line to save a penalty. The Professional Game Match Officials Board (PGMOL) will leave such decisions to on-field officials.
If this is true it makes the game more of a farce in that the laws are being applied differently in every competition. If you have VAR then it should be applied consistently throughout not as and when someone fancies it...
 
It’s actually worse than I thought it would be. The game will be unrecognisable in 5 years if it continues in this vain.
Only enjoyed by the likes of our happy hammer, Mark who quite clearly struggles with the emotional side of the game. (Which happens to have been the main reason it’s the biggest sport in the world)
 
I predict Keepers will change their approach, you’ll get them starting a step behind the line and timing it so that they step forward and onto the line as the penalty is taken. This will then lead to more elaborate stuttered run ups from the penalty takers which will in turn cause another rule change as it becomes more and more farcical.

People need to stop blaming VAR though when the problem is the rules and the interpretation of the rules. The VAR technology is working perfectly.

Putting my tin foil hat on for a second and joining The everybody’s against us mob, I wouldn’t be overly surprised if they’re purposely sabotaging themselves here so they can justifiably scrap the system. Less money to be made if there’s less chance of corruption.




Whilst I was aware of the rule regarding two touches, i was thinking at the time that I don’t recall ever seeing that happen, which can’t be true. Players kicking the ball onto their own leg seems to be a more common occurrence than hitting the post and putting in the rebound, at least in my memory it is.

Could be wrong but I believe the keeper can move anywhere across the line and above it just not forward or behind. Think of it as a graph, you can move along the X and Y axis but not Z
My understanding (again probably wrong) is that at least one foot must be touching the line at all times to prevent forward movement and restrict movement along the line . Alternatively perhaps your foot can leave the line but not break the plane of the line if that makes sense This would appear to rule out taking up a position behind the line in the nets although not sure how much of an advantage that strategy would be. This is all very confusing and shows the problems of applying exact science via VAR to a rule which was only ever
enforced in a somewhat arbitrary manner. Chaos looms methinks.
 
No disrespect meant to any blues over the pond but this is all leading to americanising the sport, loads of breaks in play whilst we go over to our partners "QUIZNO's mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm" and "CELECOXIB, warning: side effects are dizziness, excess gas and death" (allegedly) NOW BACK TO THE GAME!
 
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According to the BBC, The Premier League will not use video assistant referees in 2019-20 to rule on goalkeepers moving off their line to save a penalty. The Professional Game Match Officials Board (PGMOL) will leave such decisions to on-field officials.
If this is true it makes the game more of a farce in that the laws are being applied differently in every competition. If you have VAR then it should be applied consistently throughout not as and when someone fancies it...

Yep, outstandingly idiotic to not apply the same rules.

Having said that, I think the PL are intending to apply a different VAR logic anyway, and thus no English VAR refs can do VAR at European level.
 
Whilst I was aware of the rule regarding two touches, i was thinking at the time that I don’t recall ever seeing that happen, which can’t be true. Players kicking the ball onto their own leg seems to be a more common occurrence than hitting the post and putting in the rebound, at least in my memory it is.

I don't recall it before, but it is the same at any restart of play {apart form maybe a dropball) - you can't play the ball twice in a row.
 
VAR ruling on pens and keepers coming of the line is a joke and rightly the premier league are going to leave it alone for now ???

i would like to know the proper ruling on pens and the yards from the spot to the line ?? because every player takes the outer edge of the spot when placing the ball ?? its not on the spot but hangs over ??? is the marking from the center of the spot the rule to the goal line ?? somebody must take this up with the rules makers and make the spot smaller or make the player place the whole of the ball on the spot ?? if the keepers have to stay on the line then the ball has to be fully on the spot
 
Said for years we should scrap the penalty kick. Any foul or hand ball that happens that prevents a CERTAIN goal should simply result in a penalty goal being awarded, much as is seen in Rugby.

Any other routine foul or ball to hand in the area should be a direct free kick, even if it's that close the defending team has to put it's defenders on it's own goal line.

It will stop players being tempted to dive, as the reward is simply a free kick, and also stop the award of penalties for ridiculous ball to hand scenarios where tricky players will from this season look to square up defenders before flicking the ball to the arms.

In short, other than circumstances like Suarez for Uruguay v Ghana in the World Cup some years ago, I have seen few hand balls that have genuinely stopped the ball as it was about to enter the net. Even in that example of clear cheating a penalty did not recompense for the denied goal as it was subsequently missed.
 
According to the BBC, The Premier League will not use video assistant referees in 2019-20 to rule on goalkeepers moving off their line to save a penalty. The Professional Game Match Officials Board (PGMOL) will leave such decisions to on-field officials.
If this is true it makes the game more of a farce in that the laws are being applied differently in every competition. If you have VAR then it should be applied consistently throughout not as and when someone fancies it...

PGMOL likely sense this rule is a real hornets’ nest, especially when it comes to penalty kicks after extra time, and one that needs to be rethought.
 
Said for years we should scrap the penalty kick. Any foul or hand ball that happens that prevents a CERTAIN goal should simply result in a penalty goal being awarded, much as is seen in Rugby.

Any other routine foul or ball to hand in the area should be a direct free kick, even if it's that close the defending team has to put it's defenders on it's own goal line.

It will stop players being tempted to dive, as the reward is simply a free kick, and also stop the award of penalties for ridiculous ball to hand scenarios where tricky players will from this season look to square up defenders before flicking the ball to the arms.

In short, other than circumstances like Suarez for Uruguay v Ghana in the World Cup some years ago, I have seen few hand balls that have genuinely stopped the ball as it was about to enter the net. Even in that example of clear cheating a penalty did not recompense for the denied goal as it was subsequently missed.
Excellent idea and it will work a lot better than what is being put in place.
 
Can’t believe some are complaining that VAR is too harsh when a player is marginally offside or when a keeper marginally comes off there line - shall we just say goals should be given if it’s a few millimetres near the line
 
Can’t believe some are complaining that VAR is too harsh when a player is marginally offside or when a keeper marginally comes off there line - shall we just say goals should be given if it’s a few millimetres near the line
How is VAR not tripe with marginal offsides when it's solely "in line" with the last defender's foot?
 
It’s actually worse than I thought it would be. The game will be unrecognisable in 5 years if it continues in this vain.
Only enjoyed by the likes of our happy hammer, Mark who quite clearly struggles with the emotional side of the game. (Which happens to have been the main reason it’s the biggest sport in the world)

Well without VAR - it’s constant uproar, moaning and debates about farcical decisions by the referee. Is that the emotion you mean ?
 

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