The Labour Party

Personally I’m stoked that the LibDems are on the 20 point mark and Greens are doing well. This carries on we will need a LibDem thread.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
CON: 24% (+2)
BREX: 23% (+1)
LDEM: 20% (+1)
LAB: 18% (-2)
GRN: 9% (-1)

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Thoroughly depressing.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Read it and weep - and by that I mean the long-standing traditional Labour voters - not the hijackers
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the polls when may called the election in 2017 had labour far worse off than this bit of garbage , the tories only scraped home due to a dodgy alliance with some fellow racists ? If you believe polls you really are as thick as pigshit .
 
bluethrunthru said:
I bet Jamie Oliver could tell you.

But seriously yes I agree - the fact that kids go to school hungry and that parent need food banks in this country is a fucking disgrace. I have heard people say its only a minority of kids who get no breakfast before school like thats an excuse and of course Raab said people who use food banks are "just having a temporary cashflow problem" like they are a business and its ok.................fucking state of this country - I'd trust Jamie Oliver to fucking run it more than the twats at the moment and his businesses are going bust hand over fist !!!
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Maybe he was giving out free food:-)
 
George Hannah said:
The last YouGov poll before the 2017 election had Labour on 35% 5 points less than they achieved.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politic...-call-poll-tories-seven-points-and-set-increa
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They were around the low 20 mark when May called the election if memory serves. Once campaigning gets underway dynamics change.

The polls keep swapping the parties around but basically the message is there is a four way even split of the vote which our inadequate FPTP electoral system will translate into the Greens getting a 40 seat majority.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
CON: 24% (+2)
BREX: 23% (+1)
LDEM: 20% (+1)
LAB: 18% (-2)
GRN: 9% (-1)

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The polls are fairly irrelevant at the moment because if an election is called voting intentions will change dramatically once Labour and the Tories firm up on the Brexit positions on which they would fight the election. For example, if an election is called with Johnson as PM and campaigning for No Deal, the Brexit Party vote would be more or less wiped out. Similarly the Lib Dem vote is hugely dependent on what position Labour takes. At the moment the polls basically reflect the limboland where the UK is stuck pre halloween.

They're also of limited value as nobody seems able to translate the share of the vote figures into a forecast of the likely number of seats won by each party.
 
A thought (which obviously won't happen). With Boris campaigning under the banner of being the man to beat both Corbyn and Farage, when he's elected, would it not be astute for Corbyn to stand down for someone more centrist who would be likely to palatable enough for the non-dickhead Tories who see Boris for what he is? Labour would dick the Tories
 
joe123 said:
A thought (which obviously won't happen). With Boris campaigning under the banner of being the man to beat both Corbyn and Farage, when he's elected, would it not be astute for Corbyn to stand down for someone more centrist who would be likely to palatable enough for the non-dickhead Tories who see Boris for what he is? Labour would dick the Tories
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labour have been down the centrist road before and its left us with the shitstorm we have today , corbyn will win on his own terms , Boris knows this and so does the Frenchman . Boris is looking to get in and do as much damage as he can before Xmas , that is his only objective
 
bronco said:
labour have been down the centrist road before and its left us with the shitstorm we have today , corbyn will win on his own terms , Boris knows this and so does the Frenchman . Boris is looking to get in and do as much damage as he can before Xmas , that is his only objective
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Labour went down the "centrist road" and got 3 terms in power.
 
bronco said:
labour have been down the centrist road before and its left us with the shitstorm we have today , corbyn will win on his own terms , Boris knows this and so does the Frenchman . Boris is looking to get in and do as much damage as he can before Xmas , that is his only objective
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No it didn’t.

New Labour weren’t responsible for the global financial crash and sure as hell aren’t responsible for the nationalist and populist agenda creeping in.
 
bronco said:
labour have been down the centrist road before and its left us with the shitstorm we have today , corbyn will win on his own terms , Boris knows this and so does the Frenchman . Boris is looking to get in and do as much damage as he can before Xmas , that is his only objective
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I just can't see it mate. His Brexit stance and the inability to sort out the anti-semitism has cost him voters like me. Maybe could get in on some sort of Lab-Lib alliance? Not sure how likely that is tho.
 
BobKowalski said:
They were around the low 20 mark when May called the election if memory serves. Once campaigning gets underway dynamics change.

The polls keep swapping the parties around but basically the message is there is a four way even split of the vote which our inadequate FPTP electoral system will translate into the Greens getting a 40 seat majority.
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I think the record biggest gap was 21 points behind the Tories in April 2017 which probably persuaded them to call the election.
Just 8 points now but the electoral landscape has changed dramatically and will change again if Boris pulls Brexit off.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...s-ahead-of-labour-in-a-new-poll-a7685271.html
bronco said:
Exactly ....you have proved my point . cheers !!
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The Labour vote of 40% at the 2017 election indeed confounded the last YouGov poll by + 5%, according to today's figures they might reach 23% with a similar shock improvement. Jezzer's current personal approval rating is minus 58 according to Andrew Neil on 'BBC Politics Now' this morning.
 
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cibaman said:
The polls are fairly irrelevant at the moment because if an election is called voting intentions will change dramatically once Labour and the Tories firm up on the Brexit positions on which they would fight the election. For example, if an election is called with Johnson as PM and campaigning for No Deal, the Brexit Party vote would be more or less wiped out. Similarly the Lib Dem vote is hugely dependent on what position Labour takes. At the moment the polls basically reflect the limboland where the UK is stuck pre halloween.

They're also of limited value as nobody seems able to translate the share of the vote figures into a forecast of the likely number of seats won by each party.
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At last a sensible analysis.
If Johnson gets the UK out of the EU come Halloween, you're bang on, that's the end of the BP, if Labour ditch Corbyn,
that's the end, or at least the current surge, of the LibDems, back to half a dozen seats or so. If neither happens, we're
into GE territory.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
Labour went down the "centrist road" and got 3 terms in power.
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And their share of the vote decreased with every election , for every decent thing new labour did ( eg. Minimum wage and sure start , policies which would never have been implemented under a tory government) there was shit like the partial privatisation of the NHS and Iraq , a war which Blair stubbornly supported and which has helped to make the middle east unstable
For generations to come . an absolutely appalling legacy which has made Blair a multi millionaire !! Disgusting man
 
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