So the ONS manipulate statistics, OK.
I must contact them and tell them that what they're doing is fiddling, and they can expect to be
replaced by another body untainted by corruption.
It's getting pointless when proof is ignored, no wonder this thread keeps getting binned.The global economy has been in a synchronised slowdown.
To use a phrase used on these threads, nothing to do with brexit, we are still in the EU and have not left yet.
The global economy has been in a synchronised slowdown.
To use a phrase used on these threads, nothing to do with brexit, we are still in the EU and have not left yet.
It's getting pointless when proof is ignored, no wonder this thread keeps getting binned.
Because we had been one of the fastest growing so had further to fall?We went from being one of the fastest in the EU to one of the slowest following the vote. If it’s the global economy then why did we fall more than everyone else?
We went from being one of the fastest in the EU to one of the slowest following the vote. If it’s the global economy then why did we fall more than everyone else?
If I could be bothered, and after this farce of a discussion, I can't, I could put up a full breakdown ofONS follow guidelines on which group are considered employed, they’re counting from the same sample.
A guy who works 2 days in a month on a zero hour contract is considered as being in employment. Someone who hasn’t worked in 10 years because they’re unable to, see considered in employment.
It’s the oldest trick in the book.
Now, can you explain to me why the economy slowed so much?
Because we had been one of the fastest growing so had further to fall?
look at the Car industry.
Because we had been one of the fastest growing so had further to fall?
If I could be bothered, and after this farce of a discussion, I can't, I could put up a full breakdown of
their figures, based on number of hours, number of UK v EU nationals, age, residence, qualifications, workforce
by regions, international comparisons, public and private employment figures,Scotland, Ulster and Wales, by age, sex
full or part time, full time, part time and temporary. Plus anything else you may want to know.
But as they are not to be trusted, as it's the ONS, which apparently, are bent, it would be futile.
The worst one to look at because globally the industry is on its arse due to nobody wanting to buy diesel cars any more, petrol to a lessor extent and they all need to invest and produce electric.
Again nothing to do with brexit and everything to do with the climate.
But this is exactly my point - if they are all cutting back and looking around to see where to cut back the UK stands out like a sore thumb. The threat of tariffs make it a no brainer. Brexit and the lack of trade deals mean that big industry has a driver to shut down UK operations. The logic is undeniable. The evidence is clear.
Obviously, I have taken that into accountYou also need to take into account that whichever strategy documents you are referring to will not automatically come to fruition without full agreement from 28 (soon to be 27) countries. To expect it all to happen within a generation or two is pure scaremongering from an anti-EU perspective and wishful thinking from a pro-integration perspective. The reality is that any moves towards towards full integration will be at a snails pace if at all imo. With us in the EU progress would be even slower.
Nope - IMO, any objective analysis = inevitableSo it’s inevitable in your opinion. That doesn’t make it fact though does it? Maybe a phrase like, ‘the balance of probability’ would be more appropriate than ‘inevitable’.
FFS - just look how over a couple of decades it has become impossible to easily leave the EU - as proved by the last 3 years
Nope - IMO, any objective analysis = inevitable
FFS - just look how over a couple of decades it has become impossible to easily leave the EU - as proved by the last 3 years
Your position is fine - just, IMO, stop either lying to yourselves or deluding us all
That’s because unfortunately we have the complex political attributes to Northern Ireland and the Good Friday Agreement.
Had we just been Great Britain, we’d be already out now and probably onto trade agreements.
Whilst being worse off still, I might add.
I think people have exaggerated the good Friday agreement as an impediment to leaving the eu. Oh the troubles will start again there needs to be a seemless border they say
Well firstly nobody is going to build a hard border. Nobody.
Secondly, the main problem with the gfa was establishing a power sharing government in Northern Ireland. It was important that both sides take control of matters in Northern Ireland in terms of policy and laws, otherwise...
But wait they all fell out and Northern Ireland is again controlled from Westminster and has been for many years, there isn’t a working government in Northern Ireland and hasn’t been for a few years and no sign there will be anytime soon. Yet the peace accord continues so I feel the border issue and the “threat” of a return to troubles is over stated maybe for remain political convenience . Ireland and the uk have said they won’t erect a hard border.
What was more difficult in the gfa different tariffs or an actual government in Northern Ireland? I would have thought it was an actual government and self governance but that broke down long ago and yet Ireland continues relatively trouble free.
This has been done to absolute death mate but just to be quick on it.
-WTO’s MFN means we need a border if we don’t have a back stop or Customs Union
-Otherwise our border is open to the entire planet (not a good idea)
-This is before we discuss the issues surrounding citizenship for Catholics who hold an Irish passport in NI or any troubles
-If it was that easy, we wouldn’t have the backstop
-Johnson cannot answer questions on it because there’s no resolution, other than point one