Absolutely. I'm one of the few people it seems that doesn't know everything there is to know about this. Maybe I'm ignorant, maybe honest, maybe a little of both. I actually think Davis is one of the more genuine and capable brexiteers and it's a shame he went.Can’t be that because he mentioned it before the referendum.
But if you don’t know, you don’t know.
Nobody in the negotiating team ever believed that. Just background noise and referendum bluster, disguising dishonesty on both sides. Now we're getting the dirt on the Liddington Selmayr secret talks - putting Brexit on ice for 5 years.But we held all the cards, remember?
Nobody in the negotiating team ever believed that. Just background noise and referendum bluster, disguising dishonesty on both sides. Now we're getting the dirt on the Liddington Selmayer secret talks - put Brexit on ice for 5 years.
Not for good, just for now, revoke if it's only their punishment deal on offer. To be fair it's the only one the EU can offer, they cannot betray the remaining member states' interests.It’s because it fundamentally wasn’t true and that’s now obvious.
We need to do the smart thing and bin Brexit for good.
Not for good, just for now, revoke if it's only their punishment deal on offer. To be fair it's the only one the EU can offer, they cannot betray the remaining member states' interests.
What’s the other extreme from a No Deal Brexiter?I think you mean that you only recognise one view as extreme, which is of course your right. I personally think that unless you explore both extremes of a polarised binary debate then it's not possible to define a balanced view - but I accept this may be a bias in my own perception. I'm instinctively wary of anyone who claims to be completely 'right' in what is clearly a complex argument. It's amazing how many folk on either side of the argument claim to have an unarguably correct view and define those that don't agree as idiots,extremists, deluded - pick whatever insult you like.
As Herr Selmayr likes to put it - "The UK losing Northern Ireland is the price of Brexit." Not one we should be prepared to pay.It’s not a punishment deal.
It’s the deal to uphold the Good Friday Agreement
As Herr Selmayr likes to put it - "The UK losing Northern Ireland is the price of Brexit." Not one we should be prepared to pay.
It isn’t viable without fucking up the economy. No amount of bullshit from Farage, Johnson or Mogg can change that.Yep - there is a common theme amongst those that do not see this
But it is not just having it on the table - it needs to be viable
A no deal remainer?What’s the other extreme from a No Deal Brexiter?
What’s one of them?A no deal remainer?
There is absolutely no good reason that Northern Ireland should be different from any other part of a UK outside the EU. The land border issues with the Republic do not threaten the GFA and can be resolved with perseverance and good faith by all parties without compromising the legal integrity of the EU.It’s the one your side of the argument is willing to pay.
There is absolutely no good reason that Northern Ireland should be different from any other part of a UK outside the EU. The land border issues with the Republic do not threaten the GFA and can be resolved with perseverance and good faith by all parties without compromising the legal integrity of the EU.
...and aA no deal remainer?
Nor us.As Herr Selmayr likes to put it - "The UK losing Northern Ireland is the price of Brexit." Not one we should be prepared to pay.
A happy co-incidence.The floor is yours, go on I’ll let you attempt to explain how...
I'm no expert on these matters, but it seems that the solution lies pretty much in changing as little as practically possible. There seem to be many Remainers and indeed the EU citing the border as an issue, but just as no one seems precise about a solution no one seems clear on the problem either. Neither NI, Westminster, Ireland or the EU are willing to establish a hard border therefore it won't happen. I'd suggest some 'welcome to the EU' signage and some seasonal floral displays, much as one sees heading north on the M6 into Scotland, or on the M4 into Wales. It seems a porous border is in everyone's interest, and no one has the will or resources to establish a hard one so I'll leave you to draw your own conclusionsThe floor is yours, go on I’ll let you attempt to explain how...
“it had been dismissed by Northern Ireland business groups as unrealistic and lacking credibility.”A happy co-incidence.
Difficult but discussed intelligently on Politics Live today 5 minutes in https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0006vtp/politics-live-18072019
BBC I player won’t play in Ireland but I read the article.A happy co-incidence.
Difficult but discussed intelligently on Politics Live today 5 minutes in https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0006vtp/politics-live-18072019
Revoking A50 would achieve that.I'm no expert on these matters, but it seems that the solution lies pretty much in changing as little as practically possible. There seem to be many Remainers and indeed the EU citing the border as an issue, but just as no one seems precise about a solution no one seems clear on the problem either. Neither NI, Westminster, Ireland or the EU are willing to establish a hard border therefore it won't happen. I'd suggest some 'welcome to the EU' signage and name seasonal floral displays, much as one sees heading north on the M6 into Scotland, or on the M4 into Wales. It seems a porous border is in everyone's interest, and no one has the will or resources to establish a hard one so I'll leave you to draw your own conclusions