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Donald J. Trump
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It was NEVER agreed that Robert Mueller could use one of his many Democrat Never Trumper lawyers to sit next to him and help him with his answers. This was specifically NOT agreed to, and I would NEVER have agreed to it. The Greatest Witch Hunt in U.S. history, by far!

24 mins ago


Donald J. Trump
(@realDonaldTrump)

So Democrats and others can illegally fabricate a crime, try pinning it on a very innocent President, and when he fights back against this illegal and treasonous attack on our Country, they call It Obstruction? Wrong! Why didn’t Robert Mueller investigate the investigators?

36 mins ago

I thought he wasn't arsed about today hearing?

The second tweet is laughable by the way. Many people have been indicted, and have spent time in prison, or awaiting sentencing (Flynn, Cohen, Manafort, Papadopolis, Van Der Zwaan, Rafiekian to name but a few). Trump was even named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the campaign finance case against Cohen.
 
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Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Donald J. Trump
(@realDonaldTrump)

It was NEVER agreed that Robert Mueller could use one of his many Democrat Never Trumper lawyers to sit next to him and help him with his answers. This was specifically NOT agreed to, and I would NEVER have agreed to it. The Greatest Witch Hunt in U.S. history, by far!

24 mins ago


Donald J. Trump
(@realDonaldTrump)

So Democrats and others can illegally fabricate a crime, try pinning it on a very innocent President, and when he fights back against this illegal and treasonous attack on our Country, they call It Obstruction? Wrong! Why didn’t Robert Mueller investigate the investigators?

36 mins ago

I thought he wasn't arsed about today hearing?

The second tweet is laughable by the way. Many people have been indicted, and have spent time in prison, or awaiting sentencing (Flynn, Cohen, Manafort, Papadopolis, Van Der Zwaan, Rafiekian to name but a few). Trump was even named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the campaign finance case against Cohen.
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Why would Trump have to agree to it? And who didn't agree to it?

"very innocent" is an interesting concept. Still he's ticking all the boxes - treason, Greatest Witch Hunt, illegal fabrication (not just any old fabrication...)
 
MillionMilesAway said:
Why would Trump have to agree to it? And who didn't agree to it?

"very innocent" is an interesting concept. Still he's ticking all the boxes - treason, Greatest Witch Hunt, illegal fabrication (not just any old fabrication...)
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Seeing as the investigation is into potential (highly probable; near certain) wrongdoing by Trump, then why would Trump himself be entitled to any say in the mater? It would be like someone accused of murder picking the Jury, and what questions the prosecution are allowed to ask.
 
With Trumps support we really can help make Brexit happen. Him and Boris really are the dream team for these two nations and I think the next 4 years together will be immense.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Seeing as the investigation is into potential (highly probable; near certain) wrongdoing by Trump, then why would Trump himself be entitled to any say in the mater? It would be like someone accused of murder picking the Jury, and what questions the prosecution are allowed to ask.
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It did seem like the DoJ (or whoever) putting a marker down for future arguments. I doubt Mueller gives a damn about what they think -he''ll know what he can and wants to talk about.
 
TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
People are paranoid, it's fucking hilarious. I hate the guy and don't normally defend him, but he uses this hand gesture ALL the time. It is generally meant when used by someone, that they are about to say something very specific and important (to them). The index finger is sometimes pointed upwards, sometimes not, but the two finger tips touching each other stand for "preciseness".

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It isn't always a white power thing, it really depends on who is doing it. In the case of Dumb Donald and what happens at his rallies it most certainly is a sign to his base.
 
TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
People are paranoid, it's fucking hilarious. I hate the guy and don't normally defend him, but he uses this hand gesture ALL the time. It is generally meant when used by someone, that they are about to say something very specific and important (to them). The index finger is sometimes pointed upwards, sometimes not, but the two finger tips touching each other stand for "preciseness".

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So don’t use it. It’s not hard. If you don’t want to be misinterpreted when lashing out at minorities and women and lying about what they said then don’t ‘inadvertently’ use a white power sign.

Or is the defence Trump is too stupid to realise this?
 
BobKowalski said:
So don’t use it. It’s not hard. If you don’t want to be misinterpreted when lashing out at minorities and women and lying about what they said then don’t ‘inadvertently’ use a white power sign.

Or is the defence Trump is too stupid to realise this?
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It means different things to different people in different parts of the world. I might have used it in the past, myself, unknowingly, when I'm making a speech, or a presentation.

Trump uses more hand gestures than most and the body language experts I have read and seen say this could be due to his New York heritage. You'd have to put him in a straight jacket, probably, to stop him doing these, which doesn't sound like a bad idea now I've said it.

This re-invention of an innocent gesture is evidence that people are being re-educated subconsciously, but most people will disagree because they can't believe they can be a victim.
 
BobKowalski said:
There is literally hours of video of proof that Trump is a racist and white nationalist. And you’re getting worked up over a hand signal that is either deliberate or a sign of stupidity.
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Not getting worked up at all, I'm always calm. I'm suggesting the tweet showing this gesture is edited and framed by emotive language into something else and if you want to reduce his support, this isn't the way to do it, because his support see him as being attacked (like I do) and go to his defence (which I don't).
 
TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
It means different things to different people in different parts of the world. I might have used it in the past, myself, unknowingly, when I'm making a speech, or a presentation.

Trump uses more hand gestures than most and the body language experts I have read and seen say this could be due to his New York heritage. You'd have to put him in a straight jacket, probably, to stop him doing these, which doesn't sound like a bad idea now I've said it.

This re-invention of an innocent gesture is evidence that people are being re-educated subconsciously, but most people will disagree because they can't believe they can be a victim.
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See this is what I mean. You are not the President of the US. Neither am I. In the context of the office everything matters. Every gesture. Every word. So don’t use that hand signal and if he can’t help himself then he has no fucking business being President of the US.
 
BobKowalski said:
See this is what I mean. You are not the President of the US. Neither am I. In the context of the office everything matters. Every gesture. Every word. So don’t use that hand signal and if he can’t help himself then he has no fucking business being President of the US.
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I agree with the bold bit, but are you suggesting someone in power should have no body language at all, not even any subconscious movements? That's a tough ask.
 
TheRemainsOfTheDave said:
The clip was edited to remove the context and framed within an emotive message. I'm very suspicious of it. The danger is that, in this day and age, people are being driven towards an opinion of what happened rather than using their own logic and this means it could have come from either side because the end result is division, which benefits Trump.
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In fairness, division benefits the media. Who make money off stocking it.
 
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