Another new Brexit thread

[Blue Hefner]

I think much of leave is about misplaced nationalism and patriotism. The only thing the hard leavers in my office mention is how to stick it up Merkel/Macron/Juncker/*Insert EU politician here*.

They are fundamentally not interested in the detail which is why the remain side putting forward arguments on economics and the details of the Irish border is stupid. This reaction completely misunderstands why people voted to leave.

The only reason people fear a border in NI/Ireland is because of its history of anti-British terrorism. Arguing to remain on the basis of fear of that terrorism certainly won't appease the patriotic or nationalistic.

The only way remain can win this argument and reconcile leavers is to paste a positive light on our existing membership of the EU, and I don't mean any future where we become a more integrated part of it.

Some on here want us to remain and I am one of them. The problem and where I disagree with some remainers is they argue to remain on economics but then let slip another goal which is the ultra remain united Europe....

The EU Parliament is currently majority controlled by left leaning social democratics who largely believe in a united Europe. It is therefore obvious why people fear relinquishing control to these people by us remaining. Has remain helped alleviate their fears though? Nope, all remain has done is attacked the idea of leaving and that isn't enough.

Just because someone doesn’t want to do the detail doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be explained. If someone just does want to stick it to Macron, once it has been shown that the £ in their pocket is worth significantly less then they should care about that

It should also be pointed out, that the UK blowing its collective brains out cannot reasonably be argued is sticking it to anyone

During the Remain campaign it was very difficult for them to promote the benefits as we were 6 years into austerity and the vast majority of issues people were talking about were the fault of successive governments and they were never going to hold their hands up to that

I am more concerned about the impending fuck up and instability which is heading our way than I ever am about a more integrated Europe. In fact, the longer this goes on the more I’m coming round to the idea as the UK Politicians don’t seem to have a firm grasp of what to do or are at least pretending not to

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

demeaning by association doesn't mean demeaning by association as well you know.
Rawk. FFS. :)

Your posts never ever make any sense whatsoever

 

[Ban-jani]

Fuck me is Bannon simply the latest bogey man that Remainers are going to associate Leavers to?

I keep seeing his name repeatedly in their desperate attempts to

I had never heard of the fucker when I cast my vote and I bet few people had

FFS - give all this demeaning by association a rest - it's pathetic

No but you had heard of the fucker(s) he was advising.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

Your posts never ever make any sense whatsoever

 

[aguero93:20]

I think much of leave is about misplaced nationalism and patriotism.

What a brilliant post

Agreed.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Agreed.

I would also agree with the caveat that we have had 3 years of Leavers denying it was a test of patriotism because to accept that is to accept that the Referendum is about being a Little Englander and disliking all things European which we are told by those who knew what they were voting for was not the case - they are pro-Europe just anti- EU and that cannot be a test of patriotism

 

[smudgedj]

demeaning by association doesn't mean demeaning by association as well you know.
Rawk. FFS. :)

Enough.
It’s time our reptilian globalist overlords did a chem trail campaign to make us forget and accept that remain was victorious.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Ha ha ha ha - Gove is planning on setting aside £500m to buy up surplus Welsh Lamb ............... we have insufficient storage to freeze it .........WTF is the Johnson govt smoking ??????

 

[mat]

Ha ha ha ha - Gove is planning on setting aside £500m to buy up surplus Welsh Lamb ............... we have insufficient storage to freeze it .........WTF is the Johnson govt smoking ??????

I think hes planning to reenact full English rule over those downtrodden nations....


FFS some englishmen feeling repressed by the EU. Try feeling what the Welsh,Scots and Irish suffered (still do in some cases) under us.

 

[west didsblue]

Ha ha ha ha - Gove is planning on setting aside £500m to buy up surplus Welsh Lamb ............... we have insufficient storage to freeze it .........WTF is the Johnson govt smoking ??????

What’s even more amazing is that there’s still people other than disaster capitalists who will be quite happy if no deal happens. What evidence do they need to prove it will be fucking catastrophic for the country?

 

[bluethrunthru]

What’s even more amazing is that there’s still people other than disaster capitalists who will be quite happy if no deal happens. What evidence do they need to prove it will be fucking catastrophic for the country?

Faith...............all it needs is faith in success to succeed ........its obvious

 

[Vic]

Half a billion pounds to buy up unsellable lamb....

And what to do with the carcasses?

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Ha ha ha ha - Gove is planning on setting aside £500m to buy up surplus Welsh Lamb ............... we have insufficient storage to freeze it .........WTF is the Johnson govt smoking ??????

Leaving the wasteful Common Agricultural Policy is one of the oft cited reasons for leaving the EU. Not sure how replicating it’s worst excesses of the 1980’s could be described as progress.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

Half a billion pounds to buy up unsellable lamb....

And what to do with the carcasses?

They could buy the meat and give it to schools and hospitals but, ideologically, that wouldn’t sit well with their voters. It’d practically be communism.....

 

[bluethrunthru]

Half a billion pounds to buy up unsellable lamb....

And what to do with the carcasses?

Make stock ?

 

[bluethrunthru]

Leaving the wasteful Common Agricultural Policy is one of the oft cited reasons for leaving the EU. Not sure how replicating it’s worst excesses of the 1980’s could be described as progress.

we could have our own lamb mountain - I am sure someone can find a clip of Yes Minister moaning about EEC mountains and lakes...............fancy us leaving to start our own eh?

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

What’s even more amazing is that there’s still people other than disaster capitalists who will be quite happy if no deal happens. What evidence do they need to prove it will be fucking catastrophic for the country?

When people mention disaster capitalists the amount of people who ignore it or, even worse, think that people ‘aren’t like that’ is staggering. All I’ll say is that JRM happily cites his father as his biggest influence and the man he most admired. If people then read his book; Blood in the streets: Investment profits in a world gone mad, they might start to have a clue what Jacob is all about.

 

[bluethrunthru]

When people mention disaster capitalists the amount of people who ignore it or, even worse, think that people ‘aren’t like that’ is staggering. All I’ll say is that JRM happily cites his father as his biggest influence and the man he most admired. If people then read his book; Blood in the streets: Investment profits in a world gone mad, they might start to have a clue what Jacob is all about.

I am guessing venison, blue double breasted pin striped suits and pince nez are just the surface dressing?

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

we could have our own lamb mountain - I am sure someone can find a clip of Yes Minister moaning about EEC mountains and lakes...............fancy us leaving to start our own eh?

Truth is, of course, that we won’t be buying any meat off anyone. They’re Welsh, probably vote Labour, and this government will just tell them to eff off and put them on the dole, like they usually do.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Truth is, of course, that we won’t be buying any meat off anyone. They’re Welsh, probably vote Labour, and this government will just tell them to eff off and put them on the dole, like they usually do.

Wales voted Leave - Johnson fucks them off over Brexit at his peril. Tomorrows by-election will be fun