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Saddleworth2 said:
I am guessing, but is he not alluding to Scotland facing a similar border and customs issue to Ireland should an independent Scotland seek to rejoin the EU?
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Yes - partly - but there is more to it than that

Edit - actually not really

I said that there is reduced chance that Scotland will vote to leave the UK if we have genuinely already left the EU
 
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Saddleworth2 said:
In order to change the GFA, we would need to define and then negotiate the changes with those that were party to the original agreement. That would probably mean changes to the multi part agreement so would have to be ratified by NI political parties. The British Irish agreement would have to be ratified by the respective governments. Then depending on the magnitude of the changes, a referendum on both sides of the border. Forgive my grasp of the detail Irish friends, but does that sound correct?

To put is more succinctly. Don’t fuck with the GFA.
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Other points that are interesting... i know people like stats and %'s....


All the main UK political parties (Labour, Conservative, and Liberal Democrat) supported the Yes campaign, though the local branch of the Conservatives supported the No campaign. Of the local Northern Ireland parties represented in the Northern Ireland Peace Forum, the Ulster Unionist Party, Social Democratic and Labour Party, Sinn Féin, Alliance, Progressive Unionist Party, Ulster Democratic Party, Northern Ireland Women's Coalition and local "Labour" groups supported the proposals.

The only two parties in the Forum to campaign against the Agreement were the Democratic Unionist Party and the UK Unionist Party, though many prominent individuals in the Ulster Unionists also did so. Some minor parties campaigned against it. Republican Sinn Féin, which at the time did not run candidates in Northern Ireland, still opposes the agreement.


There was an 81% voter turnout, thats huge...of which 71% voted yes. So even though the 2 biggest parties here were against it (DUP and SF)...the people, after being given the details to consider, still voted how they wished...and NOT along party lines.

Similarly with Brexit, majority of NI voted remain.

Still baffles me how DUP get such large votes...oi genuinely dont think ive (knowingly) met a DUP voter
 
Saddleworth2 said:
In order to change the GFA, we would need to define and then negotiate the changes with those that were party to the original agreement. That would probably mean changes to the multi part agreement so would have to be ratified by NI political parties. The British Irish agreement would have to be ratified by the respective governments. Then depending on the magnitude of the changes, a referendum on both sides of the border. Forgive my grasp of the detail Irish friends, but does that sound correct?

To put is more succinctly. Don’t fuck with the GFA.
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That's pretty much it's complexity put sufficiently simply for anyone to comprehend.
I'm sure the detail would be a doddle.
 
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mcfc1632 said:
You don't read things properly

Then, based on today, you start digging

It really seems obvious to me
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I’m not the only one struggling with your post, the English is terrible at best.

I’ve re-read what you wrote several times and the only conclusion I can draw is that you mean that Scotland is more likely to leave whilst we’re in the EU, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Feel free to try again but I fully expect you to just say “google it” or “be analytical” as you normally do.
 
west didsblue said:
I think he probably means that cancellation of Brexit would be brought about by a temporary alliance of anti-Brexit parties and the SNP price for joining the alliance is a second indyref, and they might just vote for it this time because of the shit that England has put them through with the whole Brexit thing. What he hasn't considered is that the Scots will be even more pissed off if we actually do leave and will force an IndyRef anyway that would almost definitely take them out of the UK. He needs to follow his own advice and think things through.
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FFS - Getting colder

It is more obvious

When not in the car on the phone I will explain if it has not been worked out
 
mcfc1632 said:
FFS - Getting colder

It is more obvious

When not in the car on the phone I will explain if it has not been worked out
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We’re not that bothered, I know you think this forum resolves around you but it doesn’t.

It’s your problem no one can understand you.

We’ll just crack on further highlighting why Brexit is a shit show.
 
Ban-jani said:
I’m not the only one struggling with your post, the English is terrible at best.

I’ve re-read what you wrote several times and the only conclusion I can draw is that you mean that Scotland is more likely to leave whilst we’re in the EU, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Feel free to try again but I fully expect you to just say “google it” or “be analytical” as you normally do.
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Didn't you know that being less likely to leave the UK if we leave the EU is not the same as being more likely to leave the UK if we remain.
 
mcfc1632 said:
FFS - Getting colder

It is more obvious

When not in the car on the phone I will explain if it has not been worked out
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Ban-jani said:
I’m not the only one struggling with your post, the English is terrible at best.

I’ve re-read what you wrote several times and the only conclusion I can draw is that you mean that Scotland is more likely to leave whilst we’re in the EU, which makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Feel free to try again but I fully expect you to just say “google it” or “be analytical” as you normally do.
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Ban-jani said:
We’re not that bothered, I know you think this forum resolves around you but it doesn’t.

It’s your problem no one can understand you.

We’ll just crack on further highlighting why Brexit is a shit show.
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i decided yesterday enough is enough. There is little point encouraging his opacity. If he wants to engage in proper sensible straightforward discussion then that’s different.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Come on guys it really is not that diffi - just be objective
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Lol
You’re talking about people who think Brexit is going to ruin the economy yet are fine giving the keys to the treasury to IRA Jonny and a marxist tramp both of which have already started planning for capital flight and a run on the pound.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
i decided yesterday enough is enough. There is little point encouraging his opacity. If he wants to engage in proper sensible straightforward discussion then that’s different.
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He doesn't.
He just wants everyone to think he's some sort of expert and thinks he's being clever with his cryptic little comments.
He clearly isn't and it's all a bit pathetic.
Stopped taking him seriously months (or is it years) ago.
 
smudgedj said:
Lol
You’re talking about people who think Brexit is going to ruin the economy yet are fine giving the keys to the treasury to IRA Jonny and a marxist tramp both of which have already started planning for capital flight and a run on the pound.
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Who's fine doing that?
Being against Brexit is not the same as supporting Corbyn. Corbyn actually wants Brexit.
Surely you must know that.
Or maybe not.
 
west didsblue said:
Didn't you know that being less likely to leave the UK if we leave the EU is not the same as being more likely to leave the UK if we remain.
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Hate to piss on the fun, but it's not, actually.
One conclusion doesn't necessarily lead to the other in it's absence.
Just saying.
Now concentrate. The clues are there. They're staring us in the face I'm sure. Exciting isn't it.
 
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