I can't take Labour seriously whenever they come out with this guff. Are people struggling? Absolutely. Is homelessness a growing concern and issue? Definitely.Without involving politics too much, the Labour party are guilty of much of this hyperbolic nonsense. Trying
to paint the state of the UK as millions living in poverty as a campaigning tool, always falls flat with the voting
populace, yet it remains one of their main ones.
The solution is to can it and pretend it didn't happen. (Brexit, that is, not the GFA!)See my previous reply, i am not suggesting that Brexit be stopped BECAUSE of the GFA, im stating that the GFA, ratified by the UK government following a referendum, MUST be considered and taken into account during the Brexit negotiations.
You cant just ignore or rescind the GFA because it doesnt suit Brexit....its there, its real it must be considered. I dont know the solution, but one needs found.
My Mrs watches that Love Island tripe, but if your wife in any way resembles that utterly gorgeous Irish girlas have been married to an "Irishwoman"
The only posters that are comparing the findings from these reports to 3rd world countries are you guys. We do though seem to agree that the uk has a poverty issue that is too large compared to our developed economy. Do we also agree that even a temporary blow to the economy will take many more people into poverty? It’s one of the many conundrums I have as to why posters are happy enough to defend a no deal Brexit. Btw I am in no way apologetic about posting either of those articles despite the fact the government refuted the UN report whilst the fact checker stuff actually agrees with the governments own headline poverty numbers. The longer we fuck about with Brexit the more time these key areas are neglected.Oh don't worry, i'm with you totally on this.
When others try and compare UK's children with those living in parts of India or South America, which is true poverty, irritates me somewhat as it highlights just how well we look after people in this country and how some choose to ignore that to score political points. I agree that there is this culture within the UK at the moment to use hyperbolic language like "poverty" to raise awareness to an issue, which becomes disingenuous and rather insulting to the hard work done to provide clean water, warm homes, safe food, for millions of people; comparative luxuries we take for granted.
My mate at work sat 4 metres from me (and working harder than me now lol) is a Belfast born Irish passport holder. He doesn’t have a British one.
The solution is to can it and pretend it didn't happen. (Brexit, that is, not the GFA!)
Without involving politics too much, the Labour party are guilty of much of this hyperbolic nonsense. Trying
to paint the state of the UK as millions living in poverty as a campaigning tool, always falls flat with the voting
populace, yet it remains one of their main ones.
I agree, and these should be addressed using reason and common sense, it works far better than shoutingWe do have a big problem with infrastructure in this country though. Travel, schools, NHS and prisons.
Well, is he a Dipper or a Rag?My mate at work sat 4 metres from me (and working harder than me now lol) is a Belfast born Irish passport holder. He doesn’t have a British one.
I am guessing, but is he not alluding to Scotland facing a similar border and customs issue to Ireland should an independent Scotland seek to rejoin the EU?Remain isn’t more likely to make Scotland leave the UK is it? When we were set to stay in the EU they voted to stay, now we’re set to leave, they want to go.
How is this simple fact not registering?
I can't take Labour seriously whenever they come out with this guff. Are people struggling? Absolutely. Is homelessness a growing concern and issue? Definitely.
40% of UK children are living in "poverty"? Do me a favour.
I agree, and these should be addressed using reason and common sense, it works far better than shouting
stuff that bears no relation to reality, it simply puts folk off.
Doesnt need one and most likely considers himself Irish anyway :-)
Probably a Dipper or Rag?
Well, is he a Dipper or a Rag?
Whichever, just put some black boot polish on his phone receiver:)
As per Full Fact.org and based on 2016/17 figures. They give a figure of 33%. It wouldn't be surprising if it's nudged closer to 40% in the past three years.
- An estimated 14.2 million people in a family in poverty in the UK
- 8.4 million are working-age adults, 4.5 million are children, and 1.4 million are of pension age
- Around 22% of the public are in poverty, and nearly 33% of children
A more in depth description of how poverty is defined for the purposes of those statistics is here: https://fullfact.org/economy/poverty-uk-guide-facts-and-figures/
I tried mate. The 40% is a 2021 projection by the UN envoy for poverty. But he knows fa seemingly.As per Full Fact.org and based on 2016/17 figures. They give a figure of 33%. It wouldn't be surprising if it's nudged closer to 40% in the past three years.
- An estimated 14.2 million people in a family in poverty in the UK
- 8.4 million are working-age adults, 4.5 million are children, and 1.4 million are of pension age
- Around 22% of the public are in poverty, and nearly 33% of children
A more in depth description of how poverty is defined for the purposes of those statistics is here: https://fullfact.org/economy/poverty-uk-guide-facts-and-figures/
I am guessing, but is he not alluding to Scotland facing a similar border and customs issue to Ireland should an independent Scotland seek to rejoin the EU?
You not able to think it through?Remain isn’t more likely to make Scotland leave the UK is it? When we were set to stay in the EU they voted to stay, now we’re set to leave, they want to go.
How is this simple fact not registering?
No, I don't get that either. Given a significant element of the 'no' campaign in the first referendum was 'vote no to remain in the uk' and many Scots voted no because of that single factor, I don't know where he is coming from.Well they would do yes but he said Scotland was more likely to leave the UK if we had remained.