I’m sure Bein we’re showing it in the same image, not off if first contact
Top of the shoulder is ok though isn’t it?
This shows how Var can be misused.
It is unbelievable but not unsurprising. Problem solved by deeming offside calculated by let’s say more than 5cm ahead of the player. That way which still is used is unlikely to have an effect.Thanks for clarifying - if they’re going to implement a new rule based on technology they really ought to be able to get this bit right otherwise VAR becomes subjective which kind of defeats the purpose.
I’m in favour of VAR as a system but if we’re going to be subjected to its decisions then it has to be used properly - can’t believe they’ve been working on this for a few years now and still can’t get it right
The fucking fans at the game won't....the rags & dips really should have been made to instal screens, if nothing else just hang a couple from the top of the stands behind the goals.be interesting to see what happens later in the scum game !
No big screen and if contentious sky won’t show itbe interesting to see what happens later in the scum game !
What Im failing to get my head around (fair enough Id had a bit to drink for the match) is to what level of scrutiny was that goal subjected to when to me it in no way looked a 'clear and obvious error' in real time or any normal reply. If all goals are checked fair enough but what was so contentious that it required Microsoft Paint lines drawn on by some hidden figure.
My point being that thr margin was so fuckin fine as being imperceptible to the human eye could it really have been classed/qualify as 'clear and obvious'. My concern is WHO decides what is clear and obvious and decide to get the paint lines out? I think most level headed and knowledgable fans will be able to say 'that was an obvious error, clear as fuck' so they'll be VAR for that one so better hold off on the celebration but surely even VAR supporters cannot surely see that Raz's goal as a 'C and O error'?
Im wonderin if the the video geek was looking at Kun (even tho he wasnt intefering) as an initial fuck up then because the 'VAR button had been pressed'they had to find some bullshit on Raz. Far fetched but fuck me how is a flapping piece of thin fabric sleeve material an advantage? If thats what its going to be then I wanna see some conistency is in the level of scutiny for goals that are clearly NOT clear and obvious errors, such as IMO Raz's goal did not qualify as.
it will in interesting to count up after the season VAR for and against for both clubs, something tells me we will win on VAR against by double, and if we want to better the opposition the we can bring Liverpool into it and again we will win on VAR againstbe interesting to see what happens later in the scum game !
I said the same thing to a mate yesterday, we got the second because they ‘guessed’ the firstThe guy on BT said that the version they have in the room, is much more hi tech, 'crosshair' accuracy, so much better than the picture we see.
Well the picture we see, is fucking dreadful, almost comical, so that wouldn't be difficult, but so far as 'accuracy' goes, I'm calling bullshit.
I don't think either the disallowed or allowed goals were judged on 'accuracy' at all, I think they are lying. Both were best guess & both could have been allowed or disallowed. They just put the lines on a slightly different point, on the 2nd. Maybe on purpose, because they had guessed the other way & chalked off the first.
I think it's bollocks, what we are being told & they could show the same picture on tv, that the officials see, but they won't because it will show up how shit it is.
It is unbelievable but not unsurprising. Problem solved by deeming offside calculated by let’s say more than 5cm ahead of the player. That way which still is used is unlikely to have an effect.
Not sure how they’d measure 5cm(!) but they do need to clearly and precisely define parts of the body and be able to show exact impact of the ball making contact with the foot at the same time as the exact location of the ‘offside’ player in high definition and in the same frame - if they can’t do this then they could reinstate the rule in case of very marginal decisions or those that are impossible to be 100% accurate on, of erring on the side of either the attacking or defending player - I don’t care which as long as it’s defined and everyone is clear what’s happening
The guy on BT said that the version they have in the room, is much more hi tech, 'crosshair' accuracy, so much better than the picture we see.
Well the picture we see, is fucking dreadful, almost comical, so that wouldn't be difficult, but so far as 'accuracy' goes, I'm calling bullshit.
I don't think either the disallowed or allowed goals were judged on 'accuracy' at all, I think they are lying. Both were best guess & both could have been allowed or disallowed. They just put the lines on a slightly different point, on the 2nd. Maybe on purpose, because they had guessed the other way & chalked off the first.
I think it's bollocks, what we are being told & they could show the same picture on tv, that the officials see, but they won't because it will show up how shit it is.