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west didsblue said:
More proof of the point I made about it being all about getting one over on those that disagree with you irrespective of the consequences.
Rather pathetic really.

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They’ll be on calling people who worry about the consequences of leaving ‘anti-democratic’ next, without any hint of irony whatsoever....
 
west didsblue said:
More proof of the point I made about it being all about getting one over on those that disagree with you irrespective of the consequences.
Rather pathetic really.

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It's the sort of crap you expect on twitter. Pathetic bullshit.
 
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...uropean-union-is-the-best-decision-for-the-uk

What happens if we leave?
Voting to leave the EU would create years of uncertainty and potential economic disruption. This would reduce investment and cost jobs.24

The government judges it could result in 10 years or more of uncertainty as the UK unpicks our relationship with the EU and renegotiates new arrangements with the EU and over 50 other countries around the world.25

Some argue that we could strike a good deal quickly with the EU because they want to keep access to our market.

But the government’s judgement is that it would be much harder than that – less than 8% of EU exports come to the UK while 44% of UK exports go to the EU.26

No other country has managed to secure significant access to the single market, without having to:

  • follow EU rules over which they have no real say
  • pay into the EU
  • accept EU citizens living and working in their country 27’28
A more limited trade deal with the EU would give the UK less access to the single market than we have now – including for services, which make up almost 80% of the UK economy.29For example, Canada’s deal with the EU will give limited access for services,30 it has so far been 7 years in the making and is still not in force. 31
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Looks like he’s had his mind changed again. Boris Johnson, June 26, 2019: "I am not attracted to archaic devices like proroguing (Parliament). Let's get this thing done as a proud representative democracy....."

This from a man who was voting remain until he spotted the obvious Johnson possibilities of Cameron’s demise.
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A politician who changes their mind based on developing situations?

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Dribble said:
OK, so where was this outlined? Perhaps you can point me to the Brexiteer literature which spelled this out?
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Dearie me mate, I'm not trawling back through this lot again, how about Farage, your fave, 'No deal is better
than a bad deal' etc; etc; blah blah, for one?
The problem you have, as with all remainers, is a fixation with the Brexit campaign, it's over, we've gone through it all,
it ain't changing or adding anything with constant dissection, the result of the vote isn't being investigated, it's not getting
overturned, it's happened and you preference failed to convince simple as.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Looks like he’s had his mind changed again. Boris Johnson, June 26, 2019: "I am not attracted to archaic devices like proroguing (Parliament). Let's get this thing done as a proud representative democracy....."

This from a man who was voting remain until he spotted the obvious Johnson possibilities of Cameron’s demise.
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Nailed it!

Just like Trump, Bonkers Boris will crawl in whatever direction the political wind is blowing in.

This isn't Johnson, this is a man so desperate to be PM, he'll do or say anything to fulfill his 'legacy', even changing his politics. Fleece-Smogg & his cronies promised Boris their support, as long as he executed their will.... Boris is just the far right's obedient poodle.

Also, why won't any Brexiteers explain why Fleece-Smogg is creating two new extensions of his investment company in the EU zone?

Also, why is Brexit supporting James Dyson moving his vacuum cleaner production line from the UK, to the far east? I'm sure he said Brexit would create better business & investment conditions for the UK?

Any Brexiteers want to have a stab at explaining these two Brexit anomalies?
 
Absolutely fucking disgusting.

I don't care if you voted remain or leave,whether you are labour or tory, right wing or left wing, its now bigger than that, we have a man who is behaving like a dictator and if any of you support what he is doing then you are utter cunts who don't give a fuck about our country.
 
inbetween said:
I agree but the reason we are in this mess is because the MP's made it so.

This is checkmate and it is a checkmate brought about by Labour's dithering and a remain element in Parliament that quite simply cannot organise itself.

An election cannot stop the legislation for no deal which was overwhelmingly voted for. Any election would now take place in November so is pointless.

Funnily enough, I don't call Johnson's bluff and there is far more to this. I certainly think it is a pressure tool that he will try to use against the EU Parliament.

Anything positive from them and I think he will extend which will both deter an election and essentially deliver a better deal.
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The only way he’ll agree to an extension is if the EU capitulates to the point that Rees Mogg and most of the ERG agree to support the deal and he just needs a short technical extension. Anything positive won’t cut it
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Dearie me mate, I'm not trawling back through this lot again, how about Farage, your fave, 'No deal is better
than a bad deal' etc; etc; blah blah, for one?
The problem you have, as with all remainers, is a fixation with the Brexit campaign, it's over, we've gone through it all,
it ain't changing or adding anything with constant dissection, the result of the vote isn't being investigated, it's not getting
overturned, it's happened and you preference failed to convince simple as.
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So basically you made a false claim to suit your narrative? This is reminding me of the Brexit campaign & the 1930s Nazi's spun by Goebbels.

Question:

Why make a comment, which you're not prepared to research & back up with times, dates, where, when who said it etc?
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Lol, would you like me to put up about 10 dozen tweets copied and pasted by remainers on here?
Seems these pics/gifs/tweets only get approval if they support one side.
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This thread practically is twitter. I don't understand the issue.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
Lol, would you like me to put up about 10 dozen tweets copied and pasted by remainers on here?
Seems these pics/gifs/tweets only get approval if they support one side.
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So because others are acting like bellends it's okay for you to do likewise? How old are you again?
 
Dribble said:
So basically you made a false claim to suit your narrative? This is reminding me of the Brexit campaign & the 1930s Nazi's.

Question:

Why make a comment, which you're not prepared to research & back up with times, dates, where, when who said it etc?
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What false claim?
 
Dribble said:
So basically you made a false claim to suit your narrative? This is reminding me of the Brexit campaign & the 1930s Nazi's spun by Goebbels.

Question:

Why make a comment, which you're not prepared to research & back up with times, dates, where, when who said it etc?
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What. Is. Your. Obssession. With. The. Nazis?
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Except it’s not a precedent is it, from guido .......

The news of Boris’s planned prorogation has naturally sent Remainers into hysterics, calling the move “undemocratic“, “outrageous” and comparing the PM to a “tin pot dictator” – all for using a bog-standard procedural technique.

prorogation has historically been used by Attlee, Major and Canadian PM Stephen Harper for political purposes. The move is even less surprising when taking into account the UK is currently enjoying the longest Parliamentary session ever since 1653, so a Queen’s Speech is long overdue.

it would be helpful to remind everyone that John major used it which he used to cover up the cash for questions scandal – lasted from the March 21 until the 1997 General Election: a period of 6 weeks, compare this to today’s announced prorogation that will result in Parliament losing only 4 sitting days
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You mean a Tory PM using the device of suspending Parliament to avoid unwelcome scrutiny is justification for a Tory PM to suspend Parliament to *checks notes* avoid unwelcome scrutiny? Not sure this argument helps.

Also this six weeks prorogation of Majors wasn’t that the period in which we held a General Election? In which case six weeks is about par. Without a GE then the proposed five weeks is unusual. And isn’t it a convention of progrogation that no major decision effecting the U.K. be made in Parliaments absence?

Can we just call this for what it is, a device to stop Parliament exercising its right to hold the executive to account.
 
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