Another new Brexit thread

[worsleyweb]

You're right. Who does she think she is sticking up for businesses that will go bust and people who will be paying more for everything whilst the pound in their pocket devalues

All scaremongering. Like the millennium bug. Just sore losers.

 

[Saddleworth2]

Boris should just write back - fuckoff.

Bloody hell, that’s deep insight. You should be a political analyst mate.

 

[mat]

If that is a genuine letter it is extremely unprofessional from Phillips.

She can make her position without being snarky, but it's what i expect from our "Parliamentarians" these days.

It gets her the media attention she craves and takes away attention from Corbyn actually using all legislation he can to try and persuade Liz to tell boris to get fucked.

Anyone else see the irony a staunch Republican is now begging the monarchy?

It shows the man actually gives more fuck about this country than the floppy haired etonian.

 

[worsleyweb]

And the arguing over Brexit continues as Johnson undertakes what is tantamount to a coup against Parliament.

Wake the fuck up everyone, open your eyes to what is happening, this is dangerous, its unprecedented and every single one of our MPs has been side lined by him. We are heading into dictatorship and our democracy is in huge fucking danger.

Good god! The irony. He is trying to get through what was democratically voted for and it being blocked by sore losers.

 

[BobKowalski]

Channel 4 news.

‘He never ruled out doing this but the consistent message from Boris Johnson was this sort of thing from June 27th this year : “I don’t envisage the circumstances in which it will be necessary to prorogue parliament, nor am I attracted to that expedient.”’

 

[BobKowalski]

The Sun

‘Some serious disquiet in Govt now about the strategy. One senior minister tells me: “I don’t think No10 really understands that if we don’t have the MPs then we dont have control. I think it is 50/50 what happens next”.’

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

There is nothing left to pressure. The EU cannot back away from the deal they struck with the U.K. Govt (save cosmetic changes) unless Dublin agrees to back away. For the EU it makes long term sense to have a no deal Brexit then concede. There is no pressure on E27 Govts from domestic voters or domestic businesses to back away. There is no domestic pressure on the Dublin Govt to back away. It’s a Withdrawal Agreement and only covers three items so there is no ‘better deal’. I mean what sort of ‘deal’ do you think is better?

No pressure from domestic EU businesses. Aside from the head of the German CBI who stated a few days before the referendum that they would actively campaign against any trade tariffs if the UK voted to leave. Oh there's pressure alright. Massive pressure. Throw in a 39b deficit in the EU budget and the threat of the ROI Germany and possibly France going into a recession? There's a pressure alright. Lets see who blinks first.

 

[smudgedj]

And the arguing over Brexit continues as Johnson undertakes what is tantamount to a coup against Parliament.

Wake the fuck up everyone, open your eyes to what is happening, this is dangerous, its unprecedented and every single one of our MPs has been side lined by him. We are heading into dictatorship and our democracy is in huge fucking danger.

Oh that’s absolutely terrible - returns to Xbox game.

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

John Redwood saying that economic benefits of leaving without a deal are immediate. Short and long term because he’s ‘done the forecasts’.
2 minutes earlier he said that the government obviously wanted to leave with a deal. I wonder why, given he’s done the forecasts?
If you didn’t know better you’d swear they were making it up! Mind you Redwood looked almost orgasmic at the thought of no deal so I can only think he’s taken a position against the U.K. economy (as I’m sure most leavers will have done (!) which will leave him a big fat profit and no worries however it turns out.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

When & where did Farage say this? It's a simple enough question which has a bearing on a no deal Brexit.

I'll wait patiently whilst you did it up... Just gonna make a brew in the meantime.

Ok, slightly wrong, 'No deal is better than the one we've got' which is a bad deal no?
If it triggered a referendum, it must have been.
Then, there are a myriad of remain quotes informing us in no uncertain terms that we leave, deal or no deal, so the act
of leaving was, and is, quite clear, but this constant reference exercise in past quotes is now irrelevant.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Good god! The irony. He is trying to get through what was democratically voted for and it being blocked by sore losers.

Brexit was nominally democratically voted for, yes.

But the method in which we leave the EU has not been voted upon — that was always going to require a quasi-democratic process (via elected representation), barring a second (almost impossible to properly design and implement) second general referendum on how we were to leave, and what this prorogue (and potential following actions) *may* do is suspend that aspect, which is problematic, regardless of whether you are a leaver or remainer.

It’s a VERY slippery slope.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

I’m sure you know what I was asking but I’ll play along. Do you think that everyone “considered the decision” before committing?

I've no idea, did you?

 

[BobKowalski]

Corbyn’s letter

 

[Blue Hefner]

All scaremongering. Like the millennium bug. Just sore losers.

I'm assuming the Millennium Bug comparison was a joke?

Was Jeremy Hunt 'scaremongering' when he said only a couple of months ago he would see businesses close with a 'heavy heart' but would still go for no-deal'? Was Michael Gove when he explained, in detail, how the farming industry will suffer because of overnight tariffs? Was the £ scaremongering when it plummeted V the € and the $?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Funny. I recall having one in 1975. Didn't stop Nazi Nige & his cronies campaigning to overturn that 'Once in a lifetime vote' though did it??? Mmmmm

Best of three?

If you like, when we've enacted the latest one, I have no problem with you campaigning for another one.
Use Commie Corbyn, if you can get him to make his mind up in time.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

Corbyn’s letter

Do you think he will bow ?

 

[The Light Was Yellow Sir]

I've no idea, did you?

No. Mainly because there was a paucity of facts and that most votes are cast through emotion and not thought. This one was obviously even more about emotion given nobody could possibly know what leaving the EU would involve.

 

[cookster]

Brexit was nominally democratically voted for, yes.

But the method in which we leave the EU has not been voted upon — that was always going to require a quasi-democratic process (via elected representation), barring a second (almost impossible to properly design and implement) second general referendum on how we were to leave, and what this prorogue (and potential following actions) *may* do is suspend that aspect, which is problematic, regardless of whether you are a leaver or remainer.

It’s a VERY slippery slope.

It's not been said enough in this thread so I'll say it again, sore loser ;)

 

[Ancient Citizen]

What a cock he is. You lost the vote

And the election.

 

[cptaidan88]

The £ taking an absolute battering the day before having to book multiple European flights, is a fucking kick in the nads.