UEFA FFP investigation - CAS decision to be announced Monday, 13th July 9.30am BST

[tolmie's hairdoo]

I would be interested to see how City's lawyers treat this shite.

Evans states UEFA knows City are guilty. He needs to back that up. Nobody is going to go into bat on the record for him.

He's attributed it to UEFA. They would distance themselves from it, clearly.

That leaves Evans...I'm protecting a "so-called" source, may not wash.

 

[keith's curle]

I would be interested to see how City's lawyers treat this shite.

Evans states UEFA knows City are guilty. He needs to back that up. Nobody is going to go into bat on the record for him.

He's attributed it to UEFA. They would distance themselves from it, clearly.

That leaves Evans...I'm protecting a "so-called" source, may not wash.

I don't read anything that's not real journalism if I can help it, so have only read about a third of one of his ramblings (letter to Rees-Mogg). In other words, I avoided this 'article', but I did see the headline. I got the impression that when he say's UEFA are sure we're guilty he means the investigatory body says so, in which case he is in no danger, that's clearly the implication of what Uefa have said.

He's still a t**t though.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

I would be interested to see how City's lawyers treat this shite.

Evans states UEFA knows City are guilty. He needs to back that up. Nobody is going to go into bat on the record for him.

He's attributed it to UEFA. They would distance themselves from it, clearly.

That leaves Evans...I'm protecting a "so-called" source, may not wash.

It's a good point. We could certainly sue over this "guilty" comment because it can easily be argued that is has damaged our reputation. Evans and the Independent would have to prove it is true. He can't do that because if anyone from UEFA said it publically they would prejudice their investigation against us. City have kept their powder dry up to now but taking on the Independent and Evans could be a smart tactical move at this stage. The only issue is that the Independent is 3O per cent owned by Saudis (who at the moment are allies of our owners). That said a quiet word in the right place would do wonders for the future career of professional scouser Tony Evans.

 

[mcfcphil]

I don't read anything that's not real journalism if I can help it, so have only read about a third of one of his ramblings (letter to Rees-Mogg). In other words, I avoided this 'article', but I did see the headline. I got the impression that when he say's UEFA are sure we're guilty he means the investigatory body says so, in which case he is in no danger, that's clearly the implication of what Uefa have said.

He's still a t**t though.

I see the point you're making but whatever impression the article may have given you the fact is City haven't been found guilty. Therefore when Evans says we're guilty he's either lying or he's privy to information that isn't in the public domain.

And remember - in any libel action the burden is not on the complainant to prove it's libelous, it's on the accused to prove it isn't.

If City took him task over this he'd be on a very sticky wicket.

 

[Chappie]

When you see the name Tony Evans just ignore
He's been peddling the same story for months the only thing that changes in the article is the date
He's working on the law of averages, if you keep regurgitating it , one day you could be right

 

[Stoned Rose]

Have some Calpol mate, you’ll feel better after a long nap.

None in sadly.

 

[keith's curle]

I see the point you're making but whatever impression the article may have given you the fact is City haven't been found guilty. Therefore when Evans says we're guilty he's either lying or he's privy to information that isn't in the public domain.

And remember - in any libel action the burden is not on the complainant to prove it's libelous, it's on the accused to prove it isn't.

If City took him task over this he'd be on a very sticky wicket.

That's fair enough, I see what you're getting at, but from what I saw he said something like 'UEFA believe City are guilty' which a world away from saying we have been found guilty.
Whatever he has or hasn't written or implied I've already acknowledged I haven't read it (and have no intention) so if you think I'm missing some subtlety I'm happy to take your word.

As irritating as this prick is though I'm not sure the club would put much effort into chasing this down. The Indy is big enough they may make a point to the management, but I'd have thought resources spent on this gobshite would be resources wasted, there are bigger fish to fry.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

That's fair enough, I see what you're getting at, but from what I saw he said something like 'UEFA believe City are guilty' which a world away from saying we have been found guilty.
Whatever he has or hasn't written or implied I've already acknowledged I haven't read it (and have no intention) so if you think I'm missing some subtlety I'm happy to take your word.

As irritating as this prick is though I'm not sure the club would put much effort into chasing this down. The Indy is big enough they may make a point to the management, but I'd have thought resources spent on this gobshite would be resources wasted, there are bigger fish to fry.

The problem is not that Tony Evans has reported it as he has little credibility but sadly it will be repeated across the globe unless City nip it in the bud. What Evans said was "UEFA are certain of City's guilt" which can't possibly be true because 1. They haven't made a ruling yet and 2. They can't have seen all the evidence because the Pinto case is ongoing.
This blunder by the Independent website is an open goal because they can't prove the claim is true. It might be a good time for City to send a shot over the bows of the rest of the media. The Independent article doesn't even mention that we have denied the allegations in the strongest possible terms. It is so unbalanced and unfair it would not stand up to any legal scrutiny. Given the past record of Evans our lawyers could even make a case the article is malicious.

 

[laserblue]

Yes, the evidence shows that his bias towards Liverpool is clear. This then translates into anti City propaganda. For a national `journalist` to be given this platform for distortion is a disgrace.
Here`s an interesting piece which refers to this person.
https://blaneyblog.dailymail.co.uk/...f-my-fellow-liverpool-fans-so-unpleasant.html

I wonder what his stance is on Liverpool failing FFP twice? In 2013 they got away with it because they didn't qualify for Europe. In 2015 they just managed to balance the books by offsetting £50 million of FFP losses against 'stadium development' for the non-existent Stanley Park Project. Seeing as Evans is a flag carrier for UEFA handing out FFP punishments I'm sure his next article will expose Liverpool's calculated and brazen Stanley Park FFP fraud and demand they get kicked out of the Champions League. Or maybe not...

 

[Chris in London]

The problem is not that Tony Evans has reported it as he has little credibility but sadly it will be repeated across the globe unless City nip it in the bud. What Evans said was "UEFA are certain of City's guilt" which can't possibly be true because 1. They haven't made a ruling yet and 2. They can't have seen all the evidence because the Pinto case is ongoing.
This blunder by the Independent website is an open goal because they can't prove the claim is true. It might be a good time for City to send a shot over the bows of the rest of the media. The Independent article doesn't even mention that we have denied the allegations in the strongest possible terms. It is so unbalanced and unfair it would not stand up to any legal scrutiny. Given the past record of Evans our lawyers could even make a case the article is malicious.

Sure it can. UEFA might be absolutely certain of City’s guilt in their own minds despite a complete lack of evidence and without even an investigation under way.

What Evans would have to do is get someone from UEFA to admit that. And that’s where the fun would start...

 

[Centurions]

The problem is not that Tony Evans has reported it as he has little credibility but sadly it will be repeated across the globe unless City nip it in the bud. What Evans said was "UEFA are certain of City's guilt" which can't possibly be true because 1. They haven't made a ruling yet and 2. They can't have seen all the evidence because the Pinto case is ongoing.
This blunder by the Independent website is an open goal because they can't prove the claim is true. It might be a good time for City to send a shot over the bows of the rest of the media. The Independent article doesn't even mention that we have denied the allegations in the strongest possible terms. It is so unbalanced and unfair it would not stand up to any legal scrutiny. Given the past record of Evans our lawyers could even make a case the article is malicious.

Actually it does, and early on at that. That doesn't negate the rest of the article of course as it's pure crap, he seems to believe he speaks for all other clubs and supporters for instance with nothing to back it up.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Sure it can. UEFA might be absolutely certain of City’s guilt in their own minds despite a complete lack of evidence and without even an investigation under way.

What Evans would have to do is get someone from UEFA to admit that. And that’s where the fun would start...

My point entirely.

Uefa know they would prejudice their entire investigation by stating on the record that they consider us guilty.

Whether Evans has an actual source or not (and I don't believe he does and has made it up) it makes little difference.

He has to prove we are deemed guilty and we have only his word to take for it.

From my own knowledge of journalistic law, I'm surprised the lawyer allowed this one through.

He would be fucked if we did look to pursue it.

 

[jimmygrimblesboots]

Seen the headline from Evans , perhaps its the little known fact that you are innocent until proven guilty , and this is the reason why we are in the draw. Would love to win the 8 game glamour cup just too piss UEFA off ,and if they ban us from europe and rescind our victory from all records we can hand their glamour trophy back to them with a big turd inside with a blue flag in it.

 

[chesterbells]

My point entirely.

Uefa know they would prejudice their entire investigation by stating on the record that they consider us guilty.

Whether Evans has an actual source or not (and I don't believe he does and has made it up) it makes little difference.

He has to prove we are deemed guilty and we have only his word to take for it.

From my own knowledge of journalistic law, I'm surprised the lawyer allowed this one through.

He would be fucked if we did look to pursue it.

Yeah, Independent’s legal team must surely have given this the once-over...

 

[Inter Me Nan]

Tony Evans is the scouse journo who predicted Tevez would not join City. Anything Evans say's is tainted with Liverpool bias.

So you're saying he's a ****?

 

[Groke]

Tony Evans is the scouse journo who predicted Tevez would not join City. Anything Evans say's is tainted with Liverpool bias.

But more than tainted, more like Chernobyl levels of contamination.

 

[Metalartin]

Why would anyone at UEFA be so stupid as to leak anything to him, after the potential damage the last leaks did to their investigation? How amateurish do they want to look?

Evans wasted his lie, should have saved this until it looked like we were going to win it.

Which is what I suspect UEFA are doing. Knowing that we will challenge any decision other than innocent and win, since we've sent them proof. Disruption is probably the aim of the game. It wouldn't surprise me if we do win in a semi final, it's announced the next day.

 

[BolinCell]

So you're saying he's a ****?

yep

 

[Withnail]

My point entirely.

Uefa know they would prejudice their entire investigation by stating on the record that they consider us guilty.

Whether Evans has an actual source or not (and I don't believe he does and has made it up) it makes little difference.

He has to prove we are deemed guilty and we have only his word to take for it.

From my own knowledge of journalistic law, I'm surprised the lawyer allowed this one through.

He would be fucked if we did look to pursue it.

Let's hope City pursue this then, Evans is poison

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

My point entirely.

Uefa know they would prejudice their entire investigation by stating on the record that they consider us guilty.

Whether Evans has an actual source or not (and I don't believe he does and has made it up) it makes little difference.

He has to prove we are deemed guilty and we have only his word to take for it.

From my own knowledge of journalistic law, I'm surprised the lawyer allowed this one through.

He would be fucked if we did look to pursue it.

I believe Evans got this as second-hand information from someone in the Liverpool FC management team in the UK who has heard it from someone on the investigations committee who has strong Liverpool links. The same person who has been leaking titbits from the investigation for a while to Evan's old paper The Times as well as some US media. It is likely to be gossip and wishful thinking on the part of Evans. The angle about Arsenal being angry because they thought they would replace City in today's draw is ludicrous because it has been widely reported that any ban on City would operate from 2020/21 at the very earliest. He probably did make that bit up as a smokescreen to disguise the real source of the story at Liverpool FC. He really is that stupid.