Bury fans club AFC start a new life in NWCL



Twitter has a lot to answer for, giving airtime to clueless gobshites like this.

For fucks sake, when does he go back to college?
He asks if your neighbour was starving would you not help them and buy food for them? Well what if your neighbour had no food because they are drug addicts and spend all their money on crack.... Would you give them a tenner if they promised sincerely that it would go on food and only food and the thought of buying more crack never entered their head?
And to think he is probably old enough to vote....
 
For fucks sake, when does he go back to nursery school?
He asks if your neighbour was starving would you not help them and buy food for them? Well what if your neighbour had no food because they are drug addicts and spend all their money on crack.... Would you give them a tenner if they promised sincerely that it would go on food and only food and the thought of buying more crack never entered their head?
And to think he is probably old enough to vote....
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Covenants can be broken. There is almost always a legal way of doing it. I don't pretend to know the technicalities, but a good solicitor certainly would. So I am by no means reassured by the alleged covenant on Gigg Lane.

It's a bit like "listed buildings". Some people think if a building is "listed" it is safe. Not necessarily.

Think about it. Nothing happens for five years, Gigg Lane gets overgrown, "travellers" camp on the car park and set fire to stuff, the whole place becomes an eyesore. What will the local community say then? I can tell you, they'll be raising hell.

The only way to save it is to secure it for a practical use (for example for a new football club) and to do that someone is going to have to stump up millions.
 
Covenants can be broken. There is almost always a legal way of doing it. I don't pretend to know the technicalities, but a good solicitor certainly would. So I am by no means reassured by the alleged covenant on Gigg Lane.

It's a bit like "listed buildings". Some people think if a building is "listed" it is safe. Not necessarily.

Think about it. Nothing happens for five years, Gigg Lane gets overgrown, "travellers" camp on the car park and set fire to stuff, the whole place becomes an eyesore. What will the local community say then? I can tell you, they'll be raising hell.

The only way to save it is to secure it for a practical use (for example for a new football club) and to do that someone is going to have to stump up millions.
The good people of Moston can tell you all aboit covenents being ripped up....
 
Some more info surrounding the 'debt' behind the club and criticism of the CVA put in place.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/aug/28/bury-mp-fans-fsa-cva-football-regulation

A meeting at the EFL was due today at noon - not sure if this is specifically for Bury's case or if they are just hoping to get their appeal heard. One of the prospective buyers is willing to take over the club and is linked to a Brazilian gold mine company. Hope they are successful in their appeal.

EDIT: EFL refuse. Local MP looking at Parliamentary and/or legal action.
 
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For fucks sake, when does he go back to college?
He asks if your neighbour was starving would you not help them and buy food for them? Well what if your neighbour had no food because they are drug addicts and spend all their money on crack.... Would you give them a tenner if they promised sincerely that it would go on food and only food and the thought of buying more crack never entered their head?
And to think he is probably old enough to vote....


He pissed off some blue on twitter who then found out he is from Banbury not wolverhampton, and since has shit himself and stated claiming it is all banter and an act for social media




The replies and his backtracking are amusing
 
Covenants can be broken. There is almost always a legal way of doing it. I don't pretend to know the technicalities, but a good solicitor certainly would. So I am by no means reassured by the alleged covenant on Gigg Lane.

It's a bit like "listed buildings". Some people think if a building is "listed" it is safe. Not necessarily.

Think about it. Nothing happens for five years, Gigg Lane gets overgrown, "travellers" camp on the car park and set fire to stuff, the whole place becomes an eyesore. What will the local community say then? I can tell you, they'll be raising hell.

The only way to save it is to secure it for a practical use (for example for a new football club) and to do that someone is going to have to stump up millions.

Unfortunately, this is spot on. They're not helped by the fact that it's probably a fairly attractive site for residential development given that it's within walking distance of the town centre, is a reasonable neighbourhood, has relatively decent road and public transport links to Manchester, and has easy access to the countryside. Based on what's been reported in the media, this would look like a fairly straightforward repossession of a mortgaged asset from an insolvent debtor. You'd then expect a sale to follow, and there'll definitely be interested developers.

Even if Gigg Lane is listed as an asset of community value, that only confers a right to match other bids for the land - and if a phoenix club is starting again four or, perhaps more likely, even six levels down the pyramid, they're unlikely to have the financial clout to equal a developer's offer. Developers then typically play the long game and, as you say, the oldest trick in the book if you can't get planning permission for a site is to cynically run the existing property down until everyone's desperate to get rid of it. In such cases, it's quite uncommon for the developer not to prevail eventually, whatever restrictions on development exist in theory.

I reckon that a phoenix club will be formed and, while there'll be a lot of hard work ahead, they'll probably get sufficient crowds (and thus generate enough cash) to climb up the pyramid fairly quickly - at least to National League North level. But they'll most likely start off ground-sharing outside their own town - perhaps initially at Salford City, which has about the closest decent appropriately sized stadium to them and is a club where you'd expect a couple of the co-owners in Gary and Phil Neville to be sympathetic to the Bury plight.

They're probably then going to face a long and difficult battle to get back to Bury. AFC Wimbledon have been playing five miles away from their traditional home for 17 years since their formation and are due to begin work on a new stadium in their borough of origin only next month. AFC Bury (or whatever they call themselves) might also find themselves based outside the town for quite a while, especially if, unlike AFC Wimbledon, they get stuck in non-league for a lengthy period.
 
You're wrong about our support.

I thought that was pretty obvious from my reply.

No disrespect to you, but the point of my post was that towns like Bury, Bolton, Oldham and Rochdale have a population who, in the majority, clearly prefer to support United and Liverpool, and now kids also turning towards City.

For a town that wants to be a city, the support for Bolton is pretty crap. Looking at the last attendance, which could quite easily have been Bolton's last ever game as a league club, there were 5,000 there. Now Bolton have been saved, what do you expect your next home gate to be?
 
The EFL failed to protect them from unscrupulous , corrupt ownership and then the EFL decided to make an example of them. Disgraceful.
 
The EFL failed to protect them from unscrupulous , corrupt ownership and then the EFL decided to make an example of them. Disgraceful.

The efl know there are probably clubs on better financial footing in the conference than some of the clubs that are struggling in the football league. It’s easier to replace teams than to help out teams that helped form association football 130 odd years ago.
 
They really ought to let go now.
They are considering legal action because the EFL won’t rescind or put them in L2 now that a buyer came forward too late.
 
They really ought to let go now.
They are considering legal action because the EFL won’t rescind or put them in L2 now that a buyer came forward too late.
Their argument is that the buyer came forward with proof of funds before the 5pm deadline on Tuesday. C & N Sporting Risk pulled out at such a late point that it gave very little time for anyone else to complete a deal but the one they had looked like it could be done quickly, perhaps before the game tomorrow. It feels to me that Bury were made an example of to hurry up those involved in the Bolton deal which suddenly completed sharpish.
 
The EFL failed to protect them from unscrupulous , corrupt ownership and then the EFL decided to make an example of them. Disgraceful.
Whilst the EFL must have some responsibility in the saga of Bolton & Bury I have some sympathy for them. Generally the clubs having financial problems are desperate for the owners to sell and move on. A potential buyer appears, does their due diligence etc and by the time all this is sorted the creditors are threatening liquidation. What is the EFL to do at this stage when they apply their test of suitability for ownership? Imagine if Bury had agreed a deal on deadline day and the EFL say no they are not "Fit & Proper. All hell would break loose. Perhaps this is why some clubs appear to bounce between frying pan and fire because the EFL might have some doubts but are not in a position to say we have doubts therefore we will not let the sale go ahead.
 
Whilst the EFL must have some responsibility in the saga of Bolton & Bury I have some sympathy for them. Generally the clubs having financial problems are desperate for the owners to sell and move on. A potential buyer appears, does their due diligence etc and by the time all this is sorted the creditors are threatening liquidation. What is the EFL to do at this stage when they apply their test of suitability for ownership? Imagine if Bury had agreed a deal on deadline day and the EFL say no they are not "Fit & Proper. All hell would break loose. Perhaps this is why some clubs appear to bounce between frying pan and fire because the EFL might have some doubts but are not in a position to say we have doubts therefore we will not let the sale go ahead.
What appears to have happened at Bury is that Day sold to Dale for £1 (because he needed shut of his businesses quickly) and they both went to the EFL to notify them before the league had chance to investigate Dale. I'm not sure if the EFL have made any errors, but you would think that they should still perform a fit and proper test on the new owner. The fact he had links to so many insolvent businesses should have been a reason to bar him from ownership so it suggests they didn't perform the check adequately if at all, but how that would work for the club I don't know, it may have meant they should have been kicked out or at least warned to find a new buyer last season. This may have given them more time to find a buyer, undergo due diligence and sort out the issues that prevented C & N (or someone else) from completing on Tuesday.
 
Their argument is that the buyer came forward with proof of funds before the 5pm deadline on Tuesday. C & N Sporting Risk pulled out at such a late point that it gave very little time for anyone else to complete a deal but the one they had looked like it could be done quickly, perhaps before the game tomorrow. It feels to me that Bury were made an example of to hurry up those involved in the Bolton deal which suddenly completed sharpish.

And the buyer might have been as fit and proper as Dale was.
 
No disrespect to you, but the point of my post was that towns like Bury, Bolton, Oldham and Rochdale have a population who, in the majority, clearly prefer to support United and Liverpool, and now kids also turning towards City.

For a town that wants to be a city, the support for Bolton is pretty crap. Looking at the last attendance, which could quite easily have been Bolton's last ever game as a league club, there were 5,000 there. Now Bolton have been saved, what do you expect your next home gate to be?

You were wrong the first time and you're still wrong now.

We wouldn't be the third best supported club in the area if the majority supported other clubs.

We haven't been allowed to sell any season tickets this season.

Tickets for the first home game only went on sale just over 24 hours before the game with no sales on the day.

The next home game was called off at the last minute.

Not to mention that we're bottom of the league with minus -11 points and probably more deductions to come and you're calling our support?
 

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