Never said they did. Look at the whole here and the stupidity of the situation. I’ve said this before if we started from scratch no one would think the current set up of the EU or U.K. was anything but stupidity. It literally makes no sense whatsoever. The whole thing needs a reset. You can’t get that or even have a discussion about it if people play silly little games. The EU, brexit and the GFA are being used as weapons on all sides for self interested reasons.
If we are to believe that most don’t want a no deal that would only leave one option, revoke. Why are a majority of MPs who are remainers themselves just not revoking it? The only deal that has come forward is frankly not a deal at all. So after 3 years we are in the same position.
If you join a union then you should go with what the majority of that union wants. But everyone Including ourselves want to take the piss. Forget the past and as a country decide and make the best of it. If your individual opinion is in the minority that’s just too bad.
All this devolution and countries arsing about by being in or partly in the EU or in the U.K. was always going to cause problems. I don’t even agree with veto’s nor do I agree with the EU tip toeing towards federalism because they haven’t got the balls to ask it’s citizens.
Define your borders, give everyone a say(no fptp thank you very much) and stand by your decisions.
Hilts don’t take this as anything other than amicable debate.
Your answer above wanders all over the place in relation to what our original discussion was about.
Not that I disagree with the sentiment you seem to be conveying, but I’ll state my case as simply as I can.
Your initial argument sited several vested interests including a minority Irish lunatic fringe trying to dictate to the UK’s right to self determination as far as the EU membership is concerned.
I asked who this minority are and I think we do both agree that the DUP are definitely in the lunatic category.
I also offered Sinn Fein’s stance on the matter.
The problem with this supporting your argument is that both of these for totally contradictory reasons are happy to see a no deal Brexit.
Quite the opposite of your argument.
The DUP never supported the GFA in the first place and see Brexit as pure opportunism to undermine it as they see this as strengthening their place in the Union.
Quite perversely, Sinn Fein would gladly ignore the economic disaster for the North that Brexit would bring, quite aside from any other problems, because they think it would bring them closer to a poll on s United Ireland, which incidentally they would be disappointed by.
I’m not having a go. I’m just sick of the amount of thrash that is spouted in here.
I don’t really care what you say about each other, remainer v Brexiteers. It’s sad and would be comical if it weren’t for the fact it is quite serious and you will have to live together whatever happens.
Triumphalism won’t get you anywhere.
Have any of you paid any attention to the North for guidance on that.
The total certainty of both viewpoints is something I don’t have.
I don’t know what the outcome will be but there is nothing we can do about it over here. Believe me. We’ll get on with it either way.
The majority on this island looked to the future and will continue to do so. I have to have confidence in that.
I get fed up when total misinformation regarding Ireland though is used in this mudslinging matches that go on.
If Ireland is used for point scoring amongst yourselves, I will continue to highlight inaccuracies.