I can totally sympathise with that view tbh, but I think that some of the remain lies/exaggerations of the past are to blame for these genuine warnings going unheeded.Since 2016 I’ve always maintained that I didn’t want any of those who voted for Brexit to suffer the consequences, just as I didn’t want remain voters to either.
Reading some of the scoffing at no deal warnings and the obnoxiousness towards those leading in our industries and in government, who are making the warnings and are saying they’re very serious, makes me think that those who are adamant on pushing no deal and dismiss the information presented to them actually deserve it.
whichever way it went that would not be the end - the rift has been opened and will take some closing. Lets say Remain come out on top. Do you think Leave will fall in line?
Since 2016 I’ve always maintained that I didn’t want any of those who voted for Brexit to suffer the consequences, just as I didn’t want remain voters to either.
Reading some of the scoffing at no deal warnings and the obnoxiousness towards those leading in our industries and in government, who are making the warnings and are saying they’re very serious, makes me think that those who are adamant on pushing no deal and dismiss the information presented to them actually deserve it.
"and then everyone is happy"Why dont we leave on 31 Oct, have a general election where parties can indicate whether they'd apply to rejoin, and then everyone is happy?
Lib Dem have to campaign on revoke. They need to break clear of Labour as the remain option and this could well do it.
If they return a parliamentary majority, as is the political backbone of our country being a parliamentary democracy, with revoke as their main policy then that is a mandate to take forward and stop Brexit immediately.
How is an "exit" of potentially a matter of weeks more disruptive than a no deal Brexit? And it provides certainty!
I can totally sympathise with that view tbh, but I think that some of the remain lies/exaggerations of the past are to blame for these genuine warnings going unheeded.
"and then everyone is happy"
LOL
I can totally sympathise with that view tbh, but I think that some of the remain lies/exaggerations of the past are to blame for these genuine warnings going unheeded.
Pure and utter scaremongering about a no deal Brexit being disastrous for the country, nobody has a scooby.
Yes, exactly. I still think that, if push comes to shove, Labour will have to argue for revoke too. If not, they will implode as a party. That leaves the tories to decide what they want to do. Pushing for Brexit now will guarantee defeat for them and spell the end of the party, I suspect.
That risk is live for all options on the table. What we need now is certainty.
Whomever loses can campaign at future elections for their will. The issue will cool down. If you look at graphs of voted concerns over the past 30 years they EU was minimal until UKIP got a bit of traction
Well we might get to see on Oct 31st, everything is up in the air re this no deal scenario, it needs sorting asap and all parties need to come together and stop the back biting.It is a matter of fact that in a no-deal scenario that tariffs would be imposed. As a result the UK will lose jobs - that is not scaremongering, it is a consequence of an action
There is no certainty and won't be for ages. What don't you get? Deal or No Deal we then enter into a period of months probably years negotiating trade deals with the EU and the rest of the world. It will both cool and heat up at times but the idea this ends soon is laughable.
My biggest concern is that on the day labour announced two policies that would genuinely change our society we end up debating the machinations of some power hungry etonian aristocrats. That's your problem, not remaining/leaving.Behave - those things you call exaggerations/lies are what will come to pass thus causing their issues - if it happens it wouldn't be a lie now would it?
You'll have seen from my posts what I want to happen. But if I don't get what I want then at least the issue of leaving/remaining/leaving with a deal is settled and we can move on to whatever happens next. Even the Benn Bill just kicks that can down the road for a few more months. We've had 3 years of this now. The impasse needs to be broken.
My biggest concern is that on the day labour announced two policies that would genuinely change our society we end up debating the machinations of some power hungry etonian aristocrats. That's your problem, not remaining/leaving.
Still the independence referendum to go mate.
I honestly think there's about a rizla width between them. The fact that remain has never had the confidence to just say yes - these things might be better if we leave, but on balance the EU is ok, is at least part of the problem.Quite possibly but that was Cameron and Osbourne who quite frankly are the biggest pair of cunts going for calling that referendum, in the manner it was done.
I don’t think exaggerations/lies on the remain side have touched a fraction of what leave has done.
No - I'm clearly blinded by my inability to see beyond my own petty agenda. Feel free to ignore me and jog on.wow - you genuinely don't understand do you? Fuck me !!