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meltonblue said:
Thats why I mentioned Corbyn though. He could have debunked some of it and made Cameron the bogeyman given a lot that was thrown in their direction was actually domestic policy choices (Johnson is still at it...). The problem was both the negativity of the incumbent governments message coupled by the incompetence of the opposition leader.
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Unfortunately if your explaining your losing.
 
BobKowalski said:
This is a timely leak given the vote tomorrow...

‘@BorisJohnson @prospect_uk @michaelgove @MichelBarnier MPs pondering the sincerity of ministers promises that a 'deal is in the wind' should ask themselves, 'what deal?' What does it look like? Where are the texts and the documents? Because Whitehall is flat out drafting 'mini deals' they 'hope' the EU will accept.‘ @telegraph
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'Deal in the wind' means being blown out of Johnson's arse.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I honestly think there's about a rizla width between them. The fact that remain has never had the confidence to just say yes - these things might be better if we leave, but on balance the EU is ok, is at least part of the problem.
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What things might be better if we leave?
 
Pingu the Penguin said:
Actually I see we can have a GE2019 as early as 10 October if Boris decides he wants one after Parly has its say over the next few days so crashing out may not be needed in any event. A single issue GE now seems to me to be the only option left. And whichever way it goes we all have to fall in line
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By a single issue GE do you mean a referendum?
 
bluethrunthru said:
whichever way it went that would not be the end - the rift has been opened and will take some closing. Lets say Remain come out on top. Do you think Leave will fall in line?
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No, but Brexit disappears from the news. Most rifts close.

If we do Leave, it's years more of Brexit and the rifts deepen.
 
George Hannah said:
So according to Tony Lloyd on Newsnight Labour will turn down the chance for a GE and rule out No Deal if Boris is defeated and he tries to dissolve Parliament. If that is going to happen Brexit and Boris and the Tories are history if the Remainers win tomorrow - will their rebels really see it through?
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bluethrunthru said:
Behave - those things you call exaggerations/lies are what will come to pass thus causing their issues - if it happens it wouldn't be a lie now would it?
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Osborne gilding the lily has been hugely damaging for the cause of the argument for remain, long term.

It has become a stick with which to beat logic.
 
Vic said:
What things might be better if we leave?
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Absolutely nothing. All the promises of a better health service, end to austerity, education etc etc. Non of that is dependent on us leaving the EU given it doesnt control our decision making.

Instead there will be tariffs, more unemployment and a detachment from from a European society we have been such a huge part of.

Its fucking bonkers.

When I watch Johnson I just see the love child of fucking Trump. The whole thing is like a real life game show.

A 2nd referendum will never happen but needs to if only to highlight to those leavers the catastrophic mistake the nation is about step into.
 
Vic said:
No, but Brexit disappears from the news. Most rifts close.

If we do Leave, it's years more of Brexit and the rifts deepen.
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How convenient - it looks like if everything pans out just the way you want everything will be ok with no downside. Lovely stories for bed time
 
Proy said:
Absolutely nothing. All the promises of a better health service, end to austerity, education etc etc. Non of that is dependent on us leaving the EU given it doesnt control our decision making.

Instead there will be tariffs, more unemployment and a detachment from from a European society we have been such a huge part of.

Its fucking bonkers.

When I watch Johnson I just see the love child of fucking Trump. The whole thing is like a real life game show.

A 2nd referendum will never happen but needs to if only to highlight to those leavers the catastrophic mistake the nation is about step into.
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You forgot the zombies
 
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