Nope.it happened straight after a 1st team match.at old trafford.beckham left the dressing room with the injury....he didn't have it before the match.so no way could they hv said it was done in training.They could have just said it was done in training if they were looking for an easy option.
Grace Jones likes this post.What isn't in doubt is that it prompted the wearing of the world's largest plaster for about a week afterwards.
Must have one hell of an arm on him ;-)
Do/will they have the big money available?
If they miss out on CL football again that's around £80m in TV and qualifying revenue they're missing, plus £40m or so they lose from the Adidas deal
The rags are already streamlining wages and the Glazer family aren't going to give up their bonus'
Looking at how much it's just cost for a right back and centre half, its going to take another £500m and I don't believe they have anything like the funds available or the pulling power to attract top quality players
Do/will they have the big money available?
If they miss out on CL football again that's around £80m in TV and qualifying revenue they're missing, plus £40m or so they lose from the Adidas deal
The rags are already streamlining wages and the Glazer family aren't going to give up their bonus'
Looking at how much it's just cost for a right back and centre half, its going to take another £500m and I don't believe they have anything like the funds available or the pulling power to attract top quality players
I get what you're saying but I still think they would still easily afford what it would take to start turning things around - just think of all those noodles they help shift...
If it really came to it the Glazers could sell some more shares (the second class ones of course) or take out a loan. Again. After all, they won't be the ones paying it back.
Anyway, with any luck vdS will stay with Ajax and Rio gets the job so everyone's a winner. Well, maybe not everyone, United will mostly lose (on and off the pitch).
Weird that this conversation is going on in both United threads, but they have the money to spend whatever they like. Revenues over £600m, £130m+ profit in the past 3 years and EBITDA of £190m expected this year, it's almost as if the FFP rules were designed and brought in to make sure they'd always be miles ahead of the pack financially...
Do they have the pulling power? Well look at the Dybala situation this year. He demanded such insane amounts of money to join that even they couldn't justify it on top of £100m in transfer fees. So that's probably fading, but it's probably a bit of a unique situation in that he was a top player who was being flogged by his club but didn't want to leave, which doesn't happen often.
It's important we enjoy United being shit right now and don't take it for granted, because with a few competent people in charge or a mood change at the Glazers, they could go from laughably irrelevant to our biggest rivals in a very short space of time, especially if Pep doesn't extend his contract.
Do/will they have the big money available?
If they miss out on CL football again that's around £80m in TV and qualifying revenue they're missing, plus £40m or so they lose from the Adidas deal
The rags are already streamlining wages and the Glazer family aren't going to give up their bonus'
Looking at how much it's just cost for a right back and centre half, its going to take another £500m and I don't believe they have anything like the funds available or the pulling power to attract top quality players
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I thought the Dybala transfer fell through because of issues around image rights, and that Spurs struggled with the same thing?
Weird that this conversation is going on in both United threads, but they have the money to spend whatever they like. Revenues over £600m, £130m+ profit in the past 3 years and EBITDA of £190m expected this year, it's almost as if the FFP rules were designed and brought in to make sure they'd always be miles ahead of the pack financially...
Do they have the pulling power? Well look at the Dybala situation this year. He demanded such insane amounts of money to join that even they couldn't justify it on top of £100m in transfer fees. So that's probably fading, but it's probably a bit of a unique situation in that he was a top player who was being flogged by his club but didn't want to leave, which doesn't happen often.
It's important we enjoy United being shit right now and don't take it for granted, because with a few competent people in charge or a mood change at the Glazers, they could go from laughably irrelevant to our biggest rivals in a very short space of time, especially if Pep doesn't extend his contract.
The issue with comparing United to any of those other failed institutions is that football aside (lol) they're an extremely well run club. They're the biggest brand in world football, with amazing financial and marketing power. They are the best at monetizing by a wide margin and have the revenues to prove it, all without having any real relevance on the sporting side of the business basically since SAF retired. Oh yeah, and they also were instrumental to enacting rules to stifle any real competition from arising so this won't change any time soon.i would expect city to carry on regardless the day pep decides to leave,far to much investment in the club not to have the next plan and i'm sure that's been discussed to some degree by now at the club. so to become United's biggest rivals we either have to drop to their standards or they have to improve and i'm certainly not convinced it could be either, 'old saying the bigger you are the harder you fall ' ask those who run Bearings Bank,GM,Enron the list is endless and Manchester United because they are Manchester United are not exempt, a collapse on their stock on wall St could see the back of them an any moment
The main risk for their fans is if the Glazers don't have much of an appetite for spending the vast amounts of money that it takes to dominate a league and would be perfectly satisfied with regular CL football like Arsenal were for so long.Totally agree unfortunately. I've said it for a while to the Utd fans I can bear to talk to, that they will, at some point, come good, for exactly the same reasons that other fans slag us i.e. they will spend enormous amounts of money just to compete and will eventually get it right.
I agree with this. We need to make hay while the sun shines. If a new buyer takes over United, perhaps a Saudi consortium as has been rumoured, they can turn it round very quickly. United is just a huge cash machine and will remain so for years to come.Weird that this conversation is going on in both United threads, but they have the money to spend whatever they like. Revenues over £600m, £130m+ profit in the past 3 years and EBITDA of £190m expected this year, it's almost as if the FFP rules were designed and brought in to make sure they'd always be miles ahead of the pack financially...
Do they have the pulling power? Well look at the Dybala situation this year. He demanded such insane amounts of money to join that even they couldn't justify it on top of £100m in transfer fees. So that's probably fading, but it's probably a bit of a unique situation in that he was a top player who was being flogged by his club but didn't want to leave, which doesn't happen often.
It's important we enjoy United being shit right now and don't take it for granted, because with a few competent people in charge or a mood change at the Glazers, they could go from laughably irrelevant to our biggest rivals in a very short space of time, especially if Pep doesn't extend his contract.
The main risk for their fans is if the Glazers don't have much of an appetite for spending the vast amounts of money that it takes to dominate a league and would be perfectly satisfied with regular CL football like Arsenal were for so long.
It's also worth mentioning that Liverpool matched the rags for spending for years (at least the whole of the 90s) without eventually getting it right. It is genuinely possible for a team with bad management to simply be shit and always playing catch up even if they spend vast amounts.
I don't share your optimism for the rags getting it right.Totally agree unfortunately. I've said it for a while to the Utd fans I can bear to talk to, that they will, at some point, come good, for exactly the same reasons that other fans slag us i.e. they will spend enormous amounts of money just to compete and will eventually get it right.
As you mention, they can of course, due to the way it's rigged, outspend everyone else!
My only hope is that the day they get it right, is after I've gone. As I'm only 51, another post Busby type era will do very nicely thank you!!
During the Pisscans reign they opened up a football academy at Ashton upon Mersey school, a very well run state funded school. During his tenure they also moved from 'The Cliff' to a state of the art training facility at Carrington. 20 years on they are still at both.
We came along and put the Academy into one of the top education facilities in England we also opened 'The Campus' which blows every other clubs facilities in this country out of the water.
In simple terms they are 20 years out of date and show no signs of catching up.