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Well I do wonder at what point all those still arguing the toss about this whole Brexit issue will realise that the divisions are so great now that which ever way it pans out stay or leave those who end up disappointed are going to sabotage any hope of either side being proved right.

If we stay there will be those who will make no secret of their efforts to scupper the EU, if we leave those who wish to remain will continue to poison a post EU Britain. Tell me I am wrong and back it up.
Because for those of us that post on here and places like it then it's a big talking point. 90% of people I know take a passing interest but mainly avoid talking about it treat it as a bit of a joke and get on with their everyday lives.
 
Well I do wonder at what point all those still arguing the toss about this whole Brexit issue will realise that the divisions are so great now that which ever way it pans out stay or leave those who end up disappointed are going to sabotage any hope of either side being proved right.

If we stay there will be those who will make no secret of their efforts to scupper the EU, if we leave those who wish to remain will continue to poison a post EU Britain. Tell me I am wrong and back it up.
You are almost certainly correct, I'm afraid.
 
Because for those of us that post on here and places like it then it's a big talking point. 90% of people I know take a passing interest but mainly avoid talking about it treat it as a bit of a joke and get on with their everyday lives.
That will all change if we leave without a deal or fail to leave at all, which will both be catalysts for heightened resentment without any end in sight.
 
The UK runs a “trade deficit” with the EU also being out of the EU will allow us to trade with the rest of the world on WTO something we are unable to do being in the EU , nobody knows the consequences of leaving yet all the fear mongering comes from the remoaners , why don't we hear the positives of leaving ? because the globalists dont want us to and are doing everything in their power (funded by Soros) to halt/delay and stop Brexit.....not following through with leaving will be the death of democracy , as they say be careful what you wish for

Someone make the ignorance stop. Three fucking years and people still haven’t got a fucking clue.
 
Well I do wonder at what point all those still arguing the toss about this whole Brexit issue will realise that the divisions are so great now that which ever way it pans out stay or leave those who end up disappointed are going to sabotage any hope of either side being proved right.

If we stay there will be those who will make no secret of their efforts to scupper the EU, if we leave those who wish to remain will continue to poison a post EU Britain. Tell me I am wrong and back it up.

This will go on for years you’re right. However I think if we do leave with a soft Brexit that will be the best outcome to moving forward. I find that highly unlikely now though.

I don’t think remain voters will want to make the country even worse if we do leave though.
 
Yeah. It’s called leaving with a deal. As in a ‘standstill agreement’ is by anyone’s definition a ‘deal’. Any standstill agreement has to have a legal basis and that legal basis has to be agreed by both sides. The legal basis for reaching such agreement will include in no particular order. A settlement of financial liabilities, payment for continued membership of the Single Market, citizens rights and some legal guarantee on the Irish Border. We could call it a backstop.

Finally the idea we will reach any agreement with the EU in 12 months is laughable. It’s taken us nearly three years to sign off on a withdrawal agreement which only relates to three provisions and we still haven’t done it.
I completely agree with you, I've just not heard a standstill agreement discussed before so thought I'd bring it up
 
Yeah. It’s called leaving with a deal. As in a ‘standstill agreement’ is by anyone’s definition a ‘deal’. Any standstill agreement has to have a legal basis and that legal basis has to be agreed by both sides. The legal basis for reaching such agreement will include in no particular order. A settlement of financial liabilities, payment for continued membership of the Single Market, citizens rights and some legal guarantee on the Irish Border. We could call it a backstop.

Finally the idea we will reach any agreement with the EU in 12 months is laughable. It’s taken us nearly three years to sign off on a withdrawal agreement which only relates to three provisions and we still haven’t done it.

Exactly - I have called out this BoJo BS before. A standstill is a WA deal or it is an extension. One or the other - not something new and not a solution to anything.
 
Because for those of us that post on here and places like it then it's a big talking point. 90% of people I know take a passing interest but mainly avoid talking about it treat it as a bit of a joke and get on with their everyday lives.

A joke, I dont think very many at all think its a joke at least not the humour context. If they do then I envy their blissful ignorance.
 
I suspect that Boris will have worded that slimy French twat Macron who will veto and out we will go without a deal. There will be much uproar a general election will be called and amidst the outrage and election will be called and Corbyn will win.

This in turn will cause economic catastrophe, the lefties will blame it all on the Tories as the country descends into chaos violence and class and ethnic conflict.

And I thought I was gloomy over our prospects :)
 
Yes I truly hope I am wrong and would be delighted if someone could educate me as to why I am mislead.
I can't see this happening, but I think a way out of this shite would be to leave the EU, but remain in a customs union. We will have left the EU, so the referendum vote is seen through but in a way that doesn't send a wrecking ball through our economy. The referendum vote was 52-48, no where near enough for a mandate on a hard brexit. In short, no one will be happy, but that's the point. There is no happy outcome in this but I think that would be the best for the country in terms of keeping the number of pissed off people down to a minimum.
 
This is like the death of Mercutio, the light hearted, comedic element of the story is being killed off so we can descend fully into tragedy and despair as parliament and the 2 main parties tear themselves apart over Brexit.

Post October 31st parliament is going to a total shitshow and no place for Bercow's viral moments.

Brilliant timing by Bercow!

His replacement will have to be in before BJ’s New Fascist Party can influence it’s new MPs to choose a right wing nodding dog. With his majority gone the new one will be selected by the opposition!
 
Brilliant timing by Bercow!

His replacement will have to be in before BJ’s New Fascist Party can influence it’s new MPs to choose a right wing nodding dog. With his majority gone the new one will be selected by the opposition!

Think you will find this has to be the case anyway as Bercow was a Tory.
 
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