United thread 2019/20

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Gaudion M said:
Yes - but 1 or 2 players can swing it. Take Mo Saleh out of Liverpool and they would just be another club in the top 6 - he got them into CL final then on the back of that they VVD and they won the CL and game 2nd in the PL. That was all down to the 44 goals he scored in his first year. Any top 6 club could be transformed by a player scoring that many goals.
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Yeah but Liverpool were willing to fork out a world record fee for a defender to make that extra push to win the title (haha) when they were probably going to get CL anyway. I wonder whether the rags' bosses would have spent £80m on Harry Maguire if they were comfortably qualifying for the CL every year but they wanted to push for the title. Yes Liverpool got lucky with one or two players, but that only happened because they were willing to spend a lot of money on quite a large number of players. Salah might have been a bargain in hindsight, but they had to buy a lot of players and spend a lot of money on the whole squad to get lucky on that one player and build a team to get the best out of him.

Having said that, a lot's changed since the days of Arsenal's constant 4th place finishes. For a start, there's a lot more competition from teams willing to spend a lot of money, and also the Premier League deal is worth so much that the Champions League is relatively less important financially now. Sure it's better to qualify than not, but failing to qualify one or two years isn't the disaster it used to be.
 
Blue Mist said:
Look at what we have as seen in the Prime Documentary, ice chambers and other state of the art facilities, they have get 2 pitches and a coke machine.
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They have about 16 pitches to be fair. It just the buildings that are shite. Like a council sports hall.
 
GAZZA said:
They could have just said it was done in training if they were looking for an easy option.
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Wasn't it quite visible after a half-time or full-time team team talk though? People would have noticed that he didn't have it in the match but it suddenly appeared as he was getting on the coach.
 
Vienna_70 said:
Every time things go wrong for a manager, we see posters saying I hope the rags don’t sack him, as they might appoint someone who is actually competent, or words to that effect.

So far, in four attempts, post-pisscan, they have failed miserably, though TT did seem to be on the right track, but because he didn’t get the rabble into the Champions' League places, he too was given the bullet, despite winning the Cup (with a little help from (Clattenbent).

What I’m trying to say is that there is nothing to suggest that they will get it right in the foreseeable future.
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Yeah, it's worth mentioning that as much as we like to slag off Mourinho, the rags are the first team he's ever managed and failed to win the title. There's got to be a reason for that.
 
r.soleofsalford said:
I think I noticed you working there
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I hope he stops digging soon otherwise he'll be popping up in my garden in New Zealand
 
mat said:
It can't be shirt sponsors as both are contracted to Adidas.
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I think when United bought Pogba for a knock down £89m - they had to buy his image rights on top of his minor fee - separately (circa £36m) from his agent. I suspect United have done a long term deal with a sponsor to cover Pogba’s long term image rights - and unravelling him from the sponsorship package is probably a complex legal process that couldn’t be undertaken at short notice - hence and move to Madrid or elsewhere will be a lengthy negotiation.
 
worsleyweb said:
I built Carrington when I was at Laings back in 1999. It is a decent facility but a shite depressing location and next to a load of electricity pylons.

Not sure what has been spent on it in the intervening years but it cost 10 million back then.

Things have moved on hugely since then so I would imagine it needs a lot doing to it.
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It is awful round there. Flat and soulless.
 
worsleyweb said:
I built Carrington when I was at Laings back in 1999. It is a decent facility but a shite depressing location and next to a load of electricity pylons.

Not sure what has been spent on it in the intervening years but it cost 10 million back then.

Things have moved on hugely since then so I would imagine it needs a lot doing to it.
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Afaik carrington land (as also used to be used by City (and then lent to busted Bury) and still is by sale sharks) is owned by Sale FC rugby.

Although I’m happy to be corrected on that.

So United (owned by Glazers, owned by debt to the banks), have hardly any real assets other than players and a hardly fit for purpose Old Trafford.

We may not own our own stadium, but the rest of the land (and it’s many state of the art facilities) are (afaik).

Carrington is a depressing place, I agree.
 
JASR said:
Afaik carrington land (as also used to be used by City (and then lent to busted Bury) and still is by sale sharks) is owned by Sale FC rugby.

Although I’m happy to be corrected on that.

So United (owned by Glazers, owned by debt to the banks), have hardly any real assets other than players and a hardly fit for purpose Old Trafford.

We may not own our own stadium, but the rest of the land (and it’s many state of the art facilities) are (afaik).

Carrington is a depressing place, I agree.
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We own our stadium in the same way most people own a lease hold flat, a bit more complex but it is essentially ours for the residual of 100 years. The Council did the softest deal in the history of soft deals on that ground. We would have been mad to turn it down and buy it outright.

I thought we owned our carrington site and leased it to Bury? Maybe not.
 
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