SilverFox2
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Getting shots to be saved would be some sort of achievement. Re Norwich game our shots total was quite high but we got very few on target.
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Norwich (a) post-match thread
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Otamendi and Stones are not City's level, that's been the case for a while. A good run of form doesn't change that.
Seriously. So even if they play well, we win games and say win trophies they are not our level.
So in effect you have just given up on them
tommo74
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It's not hindsight is it, in my opinion where possible you should start with your strongest 11, we didn't start with ours and we got found outYou’re missing the point again. I suggest you pick the teams on this forum BEFORE each game & let’s see ..... rather than relying on hindsight
Seriously. So even if they play well, we win games and say win trophies they are not our level.
So in effect you have just given up on them
Contributions are good, but are they reliable? For a season? Neither are. And it's been the case for 3 years. Losing Kompany, and then Laporte has hurt us but we genuinely have 2 recognised centre halves who only performed well together 2 years ago, times gone. Football moves fast, you can't hold on to form nostalgia for long, have to show your worth and ability. Neither have improved in 3 years, and unfortunately with the fixture run coming up in November/December, we may well struggle more unless both somehow step up big time.
kaz7
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They have barely played and are rusty,if they are still shite after 10 more games together and you might have a point,give them a chanceContributions are good, but are they reliable? For a season? Neither are. And it's been the case for 3 years. Losing Kompany, and then Laporte has hurt us but we genuinely have 2 recognised centre halves who only performed well together 2 years ago, times gone. Football moves fast, you can't hold on to form nostalgia for long, have to show your worth and ability. Neither have improved in 3 years, and unfortunately with the fixture run coming up in November/December, we may well struggle more unless both somehow step up big time.
Lot of people forgetting that: (a) shit happens; (b) it happens very rarely to us (first defeat since Jan); (c) our players have been remarkably consistent but every now and then there will be a bad day at the office.
We have become spoiled and take commanding victories for granted. Case in point: we lost to Palace at home - huge deal; 200 page post-match thread. Reverse fixture at Selhurst, we completely play them off the park - everyone takes it as normal. I have no doubt we will take Norwich apart when we play them again.
And guess what? Shit will happen to Liverpool too. As it did last season where despite all the ref/opposition goalie largesse, they dropped more points than we did. If we can take 4 pts from our H2H with them this year again, I am confident we end as champions again.
We have become spoiled and take commanding victories for granted. Case in point: we lost to Palace at home - huge deal; 200 page post-match thread. Reverse fixture at Selhurst, we completely play them off the park - everyone takes it as normal. I have no doubt we will take Norwich apart when we play them again.
And guess what? Shit will happen to Liverpool too. As it did last season where despite all the ref/opposition goalie largesse, they dropped more points than we did. If we can take 4 pts from our H2H with them this year again, I am confident we end as champions again.
jimmygrimblesboots
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One defeat and some of our fans are unbelievable.
yes but the last defeat was a mere eight months ago , at this rate we could lose another game before May , kin'ell it was'nt that long ago i was going to the Etihad with Pearce in charge hoping to see a goal , corner kicks were celebrated with a lap of honour.
It's not hindsight is it, in my opinion where possible you should start with your strongest 11, we didn't start with ours and we got found out
But as a manager, all games have to be considered and we have a CL game mid week. We can't start with our strongest 11 EVERY match so how do YOU decide when to use the squad??
sir baconface
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Because he's a total fucking moron.
Less of a moron than some piss-arse who talks about our players in such terms.
HarrytheBlue
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I'm thinking of Liverpool's lack of long term injuries last season to Salah, VVD, Mane etc. Yes, Firmino had a niggle and Oxlade Chamberlain got a bad injury, but he was no loss as he hadn't lived up to the expectations. Alisson's injury is fairly short term.I think it is fair to say that liverpools lack of quality players is such that you have not noticed they have had injuries, unfortunately for us if you play deep against liverpool they get penalties and if you play high to stop that, they get off side goals, it maybe the case we would have more luck if the ref had the injury
I'm thinking of Liverpool's lack of long term injuries last season to Salah, VVD, Mane etc. Yes, Firmino had a niggle and Oxlade Chamberlain got a bad injury, but he was no loss as he hadn't lived up to the expectations. Alisson's injury is fairly short term.
They lost Gomez for several months. But overall, yes, they've been lucky on injuries. Thing about luck is it eventually turns. Like clearances off the line with 10mm to spare. Or a centre back scoring his first of the season with a 30 yard screamer. It's not been all one-way traffic. The morose mob seem to forget when lady luck shines on us.
tommo74
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I would decide to use it in the premier league which in my opinion is the best trophy to win, and the midweek game is the first group game in the Champions league, which as stated already we could afford to draw or lose, as we still have 5 games to qualify, now we have nearly already left ourselves with no room to slip up in the premier leagueBut as a manager, all games have to be considered and we have a CL game mid week. We can't start with our strongest 11 EVERY match so how do YOU decide when to use the squad??
sir baconface
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Rather odd way to criticize somebody, after all, even a bad blow job still gets results and makes me feel good. Ottamendi did neither.
He fcuked up on the spur of the moment. You, on the other hand, have had time to reflect but still come over as a cnut.
Thomas Hearns
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Clearances off the line are attributable to great athleticism and anticipation, 30 yard screamers are down to technique and power. Injuries to an extent are more random.They lost Gomez for several months. But overall, yes, they've been lucky on injuries. Thing about luck is it eventually turns. Like clearances off the line with 10mm to spare. Or a centre back scoring his first of the season with a 30 yard screamer. It's not been all one-way traffic. The morose mob seem to forget when lady luck shines on us.
sir baconface
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What we need to remember is that this is not last season were we can from behind to win the title because we had vinny and a proper defence . If that was the case a defeat is a blip but this the first game since Laporte is out and we have struggled against a team we should have hammered. That is why people are panicking so much . This defence pairing will not hold out till jan and that is s fact I’m afraid ..
Opinion, not fact.
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sir baconface
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He couldn't wave his magic wand in the first season. It turned out there was no solution until the transfer window opened.
This time we have Rodrigo, Fernandinho, and two young central defenders. The problem is that they will have to slot in alongside Stones who has the ability but has yet to show much authority.
I think Pep might well keep faith with Ota and Stones for a fortnight or so.
Why wouldn’t he? He doesn’t have limitless options. They had a shit match (like many others) but have done well enough before.
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big gaz
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I remember Stones clearing the ball off the line at home against the red dippers last season. I don't remember any one calling him shite then. So in 7 months Stones has become useless and not good enough for city ffs.Contributions are good, but are they reliable? For a season? Neither are. And it's been the case for 3 years. Losing Kompany, and then Laporte has hurt us but we genuinely have 2 recognised centre halves who only performed well together 2 years ago, times gone. Football moves fast, you can't hold on to form nostalgia for long, have to show your worth and ability. Neither have improved in 3 years, and unfortunately with the fixture run coming up in November/December, we may well struggle more unless both somehow step up big time.
jimmygrimblesboots
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You know what is true? Our fans have turned into a bunch of fairies who react in utter horror when their team gets criticised. The game went to pot. Poor team selection and a worse performance.
The team and manager deserve criticism for Saturday's performance no doubt , its the level of vitiriol directed at some individual players which is unnecessary , spoilt doesnt even start to cover it , (not directed at you just the "fans" who cannot handle a defeat with a little pragmatism)