Prorogation - Judgment Day:10.30am Tuesday 24/9/19

These headlines from the Torygraph show you how the right are spinning their shit....


Live Cox says motion for early election to be put to MPs shortly as he labels Parliament 'a disgrace'
  • Attorney General declares this 'Parliament is a dead Parliament'
  • Boris Johnson prepares to give statement to MPs
  • Rees-Mogg describes Court decision as 'constitutional coup'
Comment Installing Harriet Harman as PM would be an anti-democratic outrage. It could also sweep Boris to victory
Jeremy Corbyn has already surrendered to the EU – now he wants Boris to do the same
 
The perfect fumble said:
These headlines from the Torygraph show you how the right are spinning their shit....


Live Cox says motion for early election to be put to MPs shortly as he labels Parliament 'a disgrace'
  • Attorney General declares this 'Parliament is a dead Parliament'
  • Boris Johnson prepares to give statement to MPs
  • Rees-Mogg describes Court decision as 'constitutional coup'
Comment Installing Harriet Harman as PM would be an anti-democratic outrage. It could also sweep Boris to victory
Jeremy Corbyn has already surrendered to the EU – now he wants Boris to do the same
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Brexit supporters are spinning it like that and rightly so.

The battle between remain and leave.

left and right doesnt come into it no matter how much of a wet dream fantasy it is for you.
 
blueinsa said:
Brexit supporters are spinning it like that and rightly so.

The battle between remain and leave.

left and right doesnt come into it no matter how much of a wet dream fantasy it is for you.
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No.

That is the argument between democracy and fascism and it transcends Brexit.
 
Ban-jani said:
No.

That is the argument between democracy and fascism and it transcends Brexit.
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Ban-jani said:
You started it by calling me a pillock you pillock.

No it doesn’t, it’s a trap to force through no deal. Every man and his dog knows this, including parties in the opposition who have more to gain in a GE before that date, such as the LibDems.

Don’t get your knickers in a twist because no one has fallen for the stupidest and most obvious scheme in history.
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How can it now be a trap, as the Benn law now forbids no deal?
No deal can now not happen, if we exited on 31 Oct, it would be voided by law, so it can't.
Corbyn's approval ratings being abysmal may have something to do with it, he's now in the ludicrous position of
calling for the PM to resign, yet at the same time refusing the mechanism to ensure it, so he has no confidence
in the PM but doesn't want to see him go.
This farce can't go on much longer.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
How can it now be a trap, as the Benn law now forbids no deal?
No deal can now not happen, if we exited on 31 Oct, it would be voided by law, so it can't.
Corbyn's approval ratings being abysmal may have something to do with it, he's now in the ludicrous position of
calling for the PM to resign, yet at the same time refusing the mechanism to ensure it, so he has no confidence
in the PM but doesn't want to see him go.
This farce can't go on much longer.
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Cox had it right when he said they dont want to see Boris as PM but they dont want to see their own leader as PM.

Sums the state of it all up and it cant last for much longer.
 
City Raider said:
So Gove has compared Johnson to Pep on LBC. Saying both born winners. Let’s just say twitter has not reacted kindly to the comparison [emoji1]
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If Twitter hasn't reacted well then there is possibly some truth and merit to what he said ;-)
 
hgblue said:
Would be interesting to see if Remainers were still staunch ‘defenders of Parliamentary sovereignty’ if it wasn’t conveniently doing what they wanted. I can’t prove it but I suspect they’re talking bollocks ;)
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The UK is a parliamentary democracy, therefore parliament is sovereign as the SC decision correctly reinforced. The judgment had an impact on Brexit proceedings but the central issue was far more important than Brexit. I would always defend parliamentary sovereignty against any challenges from a dubious executive or individuals.

As an aside for those like Rees-Mogg who question the SC's neutrality when making judgments I would wager that the majority of the SC judges :-

1. Vote Tory
2. Voted Leave in the referendum.
 
lancs blue said:
The UK is a parliamentary democracy, therefore parliament is sovereign as the SC decision correctly reinforced. The judgment had an impact on Brexit proceedings but the central issue was far more important than Brexit. I would always defend parliamentary sovereignty against any challenges from a dubious executive or individuals.

As an aside for those like Rees-Mogg who question the SC's neutrality when making judgments I would wager that the majority of the SC judges :-

1. Vote Tory
2. Voted Leave in the referendum.
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Can we have it right here as i feel its important.

Had the SC ruled in the Govt's favour yesterday many of those defending them with their very lives this morning, Cherry etc would have been critical and would have had no problem in saying so with I've little doubt accusations of them being out of touch right wing Tory brexiteers.

Big boys and girls these judges who dont give a rats arse what people think of their judgements and its water off a ducks back.
 
blueinsa said:
Had the SC ruled in the Govt's favour yesterday many of those defending them with their very lives this morning, Cherry etc would have been critical and would have had no problem in saying so with I've little doubt accusations of them being out of touch right wing Tory brexiteers.
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Probably, there are always some who criticise the verdicts if they don't go their way, it's human nature. Rees-Mogg's comment about a "constitutional coup" didn't fall into that category for me, it was a calculated attempt to undermine the SC's neutrality in the eyes of the electorate.

blueinsa said:
Big boys and girls these judges who dont give a rats arse what people think of their judgements and its water off a ducks back.
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Yes, regardless of their own political views they decided that the PM was effectively using prorogation for 5 weeks as a ruse to bypass parliament's scrutiny and closed a loophole that could have had serious consequences for our democracy in the future. That was the main issue at stake IMO, not the impact on Brexit.
 
lancs blue said:
As an aside for those like Rees-Mogg who question the SC's neutrality when making judgments I would wager that the majority of the SC judges :-

1. Vote Tory
2. Voted Leave in the referendum.
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I doubt 2 is right. Statistically you are about twice as likely to have voted remain if you are educated to degree level or above.
 
blueinsa said:
Correct.

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blueinsa said:
Point of order. Can i kindly suggest you install an English spell check into your browser and use it before posting? I accept English isn't your first language but its fucking infuriating reading your posts at times as you preach to us yet cant be bothered to spell even the simplest of words correctly. Thanks.
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Point of order, can you please explain to foreigners the terms "rickets" and "poofs" in the context for which they are used in, since i don't understand what they refer to checking the oxford dictionary. I do understand that Brexit evokes a lot of "creative linguistics", but for some it might be also helpfull if you sticked to simply English. Some might perhaps find it infuriating to be doused by such a volume of slang that one logicly might not understand.

If we foreigners are to be held to a standard of English being spoken here, i presume the same standard should be held for Brits?
 
lancs blue said:
The UK is a parliamentary democracy, therefore parliament is sovereign as the SC decision correctly reinforced. The judgment had an impact on Brexit proceedings but the central issue was far more important than Brexit. I would always defend parliamentary sovereignty against any challenges from a dubious executive or individuals.

As an aside for those like Rees-Mogg who question the SC's neutrality when making judgments I would wager that the majority of the SC judges :-

1. Vote Tory
2. Voted Leave in the referendum.
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I would wager anything you like that they're anything but.
In fact, these judges have now opened themselves up to the same intense personal scrutiny that they have subjected
the PM to, by ruling that it was for political motives. Maybe it was, in fact it probably was, we're not idiots, but if your
investigating political decisions by such means as morality and hidden intention, then that same principle will apply to you.
Margaret Hale, the judge who read out the verdict has just been given a position at an Oxford college run by Alan Rusbridger,
former editor of the Guardian, he's a prominent remainer and a Gina Miller supporter.
So I doubt she voted Conservative, or to leave. One previous supreme judge has just said that 52% don't get the spoils,
do you think he voted leave?
 
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