Prorogation - Judgment Day:10.30am Tuesday 24/9/19

urban genie said:
Closing all private schools is one - dont know anyone who really gives a shite on the subject in a negative way - Well I do all those people who want to give people a private education and it is their prerogative. We have hundreds of thousands at private schools and it would place huge pressure on the public sector
Getting rid of Trident. - not labour policy so not relevant - Corbyn wants it
A 32 hour working week! - a lot of businesses do this already we have a very diverse work pattern society - nonsense - who works 32 hours a week - utter shite
High Taxes on companies - as per firet one don't know anyone against this - higher taxes mean less investment and less growth = less taxes collected
Garden Tax - Never heeard of it - well read up on it then has been prominent on the news recently
Scrap prescription charges - A great policy and as it should be - hugely costly - so someone on millions should not pay for medicine? Can we afford this? Highly doubtful
Free movement of people. - not actually what has been proposed, but rights to people moving, residing and contributing here.
Right to buy - private housing tenants - aka theft - Actually it is siezing houses left dormant for years and reusing rather than them left to rot, again a good policy, don't buy a house of you don't want to use it. No it is not - Read Mcdonells recent comments


Hardly communism, and won't include starving the poorest, making people including ex servemen (600 last count) homeless and killing or driving to suicide the disabled or sick.
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Apart form the fact most of what you have said is completely wrong - good effort
 
worsleyweb said:
Apart form the fact most of what you have said is completely wrong - good effort
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You said policy and your replies to my replies are your opinion on individuals opinion.

Not policy


On the two you did mention the pescriptions, the million comment is bollocks, the rich person will already have been taxed, a contribution which should fund free pescriptions .

Here is an example, Ventolin a much needed and used medicine for Asthma sufferers, all over the world it is pescription free to buy cost around £2.50 , here it is on pescription at £9.

I know that the NHS pays 76p to buy it but because other medicine can cost up to £16 to buy this much needed medicine is kept on the pescription list

It should not be for patients, payimg tax to prop up a fucked up drugs sysyem whre phamecutecals can charge ober the odds.

Labours stratergy to make these companies produce affordable medicines which the NHS can afford to buy would make pescriptions unecessary.

And I have seen the garden tax now, if your house is worth more you pay more? Not sure on that myself tbh not something I think that positively about, but it isn't policy atm and doubt it will be
 
BobKowalski said:
We would leave with May’s WA. We would call it the ‘Boris Deal’ but essentially it would be the same. The bulk of the Tory Party did vote for the WA. It was the lack of a majority that killed it. May knew she would have problems hence why she went to the country for a mandate and a big majority. We know how that ended up.
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With the current backstop in it?
 
Johnson defeated afain in commons vote.

No recess for conference next week and his wednesday key speach will need to be re-arranged as he is asked to attend PMQs.

The fuckers are still coming to Manchester though as lobyist have paid for their tickets and tories don't want to lose the revenue.
 
So his brother couldn't stomach what he is doing neither can his sister,anyone blaming the female mp who was in the next constuncy(sp)to Jo Cox and is rightly fearing the death threat she gets needs to remove their heads from their arse,some things are just too much to use for point scoring,he is copying the orange **** across the pond,it is neither big or clever,they both have 24/7 protection so they don't give a shite,how has it come to this that these 2 are in charge


Rachel Johnson has said the language her brother - the prime minister - used at the dispatch box in the House of Commons was "tasteless".

Appearing on The Pledge to be aired on Sky News tonight, Ms Johnson, who has been a vocal opponent of her brother Boris Johnson over Britain leaving the EU, said he was wrong to suggest the best way to honour the memory of Jo Cox was to deliver Brexit.

The former candidate for The Independent Group for Change, was sharing her views on the changes in political language, after a fiery night in the Commons when parliament resumed on Wednesday.

Ms Johnson said: "A lot of this language was initiated in the tabloids, because we had [headlines] like 'crush the saboteurs', we had the judiciary and remain MPs being 'enemies of the people', words like collaborationist, betrayal.

"My brother is using words like 'surrender' and 'capitulation' as if the people standing in the way of the blessed will of the people, as defined by the 17.4 million votes in 2016, should be hung, drawn, quartered, tarred, and feathered.

"I think that is highly reprehensible.

"I hope today in the Commons there will be some sort of deal on all sides that this sort of thing is utterly dialled down.

"It serves no purpose."

On Mr Johnson's reference to Jo Cox, who was murdered in 2016, she said: "I think it was particularly tasteless for those who are grieving a mother, MP and friend to say the best way to honour her memory is to deliver the thing she and her family campaigned against - Brexit.

"It was a very tasteless way of referring to the memory of a murdered MP, who was murdered by someone who said 'Britain first', obviously of the far right tendency, which is being whipped up by this sort of language."

Ms Cox's widower said he felt "sick" after Mr Johnson dismissed the fears of Labour MPs over the language used against them in death threats

In the Commons on Wednesday evening, Labour MP Paula Sheriff raised Mrs Cox's death as she told Mr Johnson: "We should not resort to using offensive, dangerous or inflammatory language for legislation that we do not like.

"We stand here under the shield of our departed friend, with many of us subject to death threats and abuse every single day.

"And let me tell the prime minister that they often quote his words: surrender act, betrayal, traitor.

"I for one am sick of it. We must moderate our language and it has to come from the prime minister first."

Prompting a furious reaction from Labour MPs, Mr Johnson replied: "I've never heard such humbug in all my life."

After the incident, Brendan Cox tweeted: "Feel a bit sick at Jo's name being used in this way. The best way to honour Jo is for all of us (no matter our views) to stand up for what we believe in, passionately and with determination. But never to demonise the other side and always hold onto what we have in common."
 
urban genie said:
Johnson defeated afain in commons vote.

No recess for conference next week and his wednesday key speach will need to be re-arranged as he is asked to attend PMQs.

The fuckers are still coming to Manchester though as lobyist have paid for their tickets and tories don't want to lose the revenue.
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Lewis Goodall said earlier one senior Tory said it matters not - Manchester is only 2 hours away. Obviously he has never used the M6 and thinks HS2 is already up and running. Furthermore even if it was only 2hrs that is still only one way.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Lewis Goodall said earlier one senior Tory said it matters not - Manchester is only 2 hours away. Obviously he has never used the M6 and thinks HS2 is already up and running. Furthermore even if it was only 2hrs that is still only one way.
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I don't want them here, but they are coming and I can be called socialist scum again as I was the other year as me an some friends sat in albert square for the food festival after a home game.

The chinless wanker saw my red star lapel pin and felt the need to comment, silly ****.

I also remember we were in the britains last time after the march and tories had booked upstairs.
Was sat woth some FBU members and a couple from the nurses union and a couple came into the beer garden, we tried to engage in a friendly discussion but as one fellow in braces and grey suit said, us service sworkers didn't understand the figures and why austerity was necessary.
Doh us silly little serfs
 
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karen7 said:
Traitor,facist and betrayal

Words used in an attack on Jess Philips office today and shouted down the phone to her london office as well

Well done boris,you are stirring up hatred very well

Stop it now
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She is on video a few years back telling Owen Jones she wouldn't knife Corbyn in the back, she would knife him in the front.

Also widely reported to have screamed fuck off to Diane Abbott in one of her other rants.

Quite the reputation for losing her temper has Jess.

They all need to shut the fuck up and get on with their jobs in a civil manner karen.
 
blueinsa said:
She is on video a few years back telling Owen Jones she wouldn't knife Corbyn in the back, she would knife him in the front.

Also widely reported to have screamed fuck off to Diane Abbott in one of her other rants.

Quite the reputation for losing her temper has Jess.

They all need to shut the fuck up and get on with their jobs in a civil manner karen.
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She is a brummie tbf so automatically a gobby twat.

I don't like her tbh, her polictics is that more akin to the lib dems than labour, however she has been threatened with rape and murder on several occasions and just because she is a gobby fucker two wrongs don't make a right and she deserves such abuse.

Some prick trying to smash her constituency office windows and shouting facist and traitor at not her, but her staff is the result of Johnsons language.
 
Also me saying I want Johnson to get what edward stafford or mussolini did on an anonymous local football forum is not the same as the PM and other prominent figures in the public eye stiring up hatred amongst the public.

Just before someone comes out with the " oh so it's alright to say ...... needs twating" comment bit the PM is bad if he does it, and cries fowl and tries to compare them.
 
urban genie said:
She is a brummie tbf so automatically a gobby twat.

I don't like her tbh, her polictics is that more akin to the lib dems than labour, however she has been threatened with rape and murder on several occasions and just because she is a gobby fucker two wrongs don't make a right and she deserves such abuse.

Some prick trying to smash her constituency office windows and shouting facist and traitor at not her, but her staff is the result of Johnsons language.
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You cant write her own abuse off as her just being a gobby brummie mate but then be appalled at what she has received.

This is whats wrong with the debate today.

Too many desperate to pin the blame on one man for obvious reasons but the fact is they are all fucking at it.

Bercow said this morning yesterday was the worst behaviour he had ever seen in 22 years and he made it clear it was from both sides and last night in one of his please for calm made it abundantly clear the threats to MP's and their families are coming from both sides of the brexit debate.

It has to stop.
 
urban genie said:
Also me saying I want Johnson to get what edward stafford or mussolini did on an anonymous local football forum is not the same as the PM and other prominent figures in the public eye stiring up hatred amongst the public.

Just before someone comes out with the " oh so it's alright to say ...... needs twating" comment bit the PM is bad if he does it, and cries fowl and tries to compare them.
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Why isn't it the same?

What if some nut job on here reads it and thinks yeah, I'm up for that, fuck it.

This is a huge site with hundreds of thousands of reads of our posts.

You dont get to say whats you can get away with but not others.
 
blueinsa said:
You cant write her own abuse off as her just being a gobby brummie mate but then be appalled at what she has received.

This is whats wrong with the debate today.

Too many desperate to pin the blame on one man for obvious reasons but the fact is they are all fucking at it.

Bercow said this morning yesterday was the worst behaviour he had ever seen in 22 years and he made it clear it was from both sides and last night in one of his please for calm made it abundantly clear the threats to MP's and their families are coming from both sides of the brexit debate.

It has to stop.
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Did I write off her dickishness? No not in the slightest

She is a gobshite, but she has also endured shit that you, me and that twat johnson never will, or has someone threatened to rape you recently?
 
urban genie said:
Did I write off her dickishness? No not in the slightest

She is a gobshite, but she has also endured shit that you, me and that twat johnson never will, or has someone threatened to rape you recently?
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No but i haven't done a tv interview in which i said i wouldn't knife a colleague in the back, id knife him in the front.

Gobshite doesnt excuse it and she has to own her own behaviour and ask if it is leading to threats?
 
blueinsa said:
Why isn't it the same?

What if some nut job on here reads it and thinks yeah, I'm up for that, fuck it.

This is a huge site with hundreds of thousands of reads of our posts.

You dont get to say whats you can get away with but not others.
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Oh please, I doubt any urban genie post holds any sway over the actions of any other mooner.

Where as the Prime Ministers words carry validity.
For some fucked up reason yaxley lenons words carry validity
Farages words carry validity
Even Jeremys words carry validity.

Any of them spiting vitriol coul lead to a serious incident.

X, Y & Z on bluemoon forum won't.
 
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