Another new Brexit thread

  • Thread starter Thread starter Ric
  • Start date Start date
Status
Not open for further replies.
Neville Kneville said:
How dumb, do you want this discussion to be ?

I've been very busy today, so I could have been mistaken, that I posted Farge's response to MAY'S deal, which basically said: shove it.

From your posts, I don't think you are one of the many stupid, motherfuckers amongst the leave voters, so what the fuck game are you trying to play, suggesting Farage, Bozo, ERG, will accept your Norway deal ?

Yes they lied about it, of course, Brexit is a lie, they conned the electorate, but what the fuck ?

You KNOW they won't wear it. You will have to force them to, by using the opposition, to get it passed through Parliament.

It suits me fine.

But please, don't take the piss.
Click to expand...
This is the sort of thought provoking engagement that I like to see from certain 'remainers'.

Lifts the veil of your faux saccharine bullshit. You don't seek a compromise or wish to heal the divisions, you just want your own way and fuck anyone else for disagreeing.

You've been "very busy today" but still found time to debate brexit on a football forum with someone you've admitted you find to be dumb...
tenor.gif


The amount of crap people come out with on here at times!

I'm one of those searching for a compromise, trying to find solutions, but you seem to be one of those trying to find negatives in everything. If you're not willing to be civil, if you won't engage with those you disagree with, then what's the point? Stop treating no dealers (as i've stopped seeing remainers) as the "enemy" and come to understand each other's positions, with respect.
 
Last edited:
mackenzie said:
Boris Johnson can't even hold himself together.
We could do this all night.
Click to expand...
Yes we could, but even Labour are admitting their stance on brexit will cost them votes in pro-leave labour areas. They've every reason to be as worried as the Tories are. They need every Labour vote AND some Tory votes to win the election.

They've lost some to the Lib Dems, lost labour leave voters and haven;t attracted any Tories thanks to Corbyn and McDonnell.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Yes we could, but even Labour are admitting their stance on brexit will cost them votes in pro-leave labour areas. They've every reason to be as worried as the Tories are. They need every Labour vote AND some Tory votes to win the election.

They've lost some to the Lib Dems, lost labour leave voters and haven;t attracted any Tories thanks to Corbyn and McDonnell.
Click to expand...
I agree, labour will lose seats. However, I think their stance on any future referendum is both mature and democratic.
 
mackenzie said:
I agree, labour will lose seats. However, I think their stance on any future referendum is both mature and democratic.
Click to expand...
Doesn't matter. They won't win the majority they need so as to implement it.

Personally I think their stance is crude; vote Labour, we'll get a "better" deal with the EU, which we'll then put to the public to vote for in a referendum and then campaign AGAINST it.

It's mature... but nonsense from an electorate point of view. Why vote for a deal we know the ones who arranged it, don't support it?
 
mackenzie said:
The only party that I can see that is trying to hold this country together is Labour.
Click to expand...
If you're right the country is definitely finished, but all is not lost - you could be wrong. Hopefully the electorate will find a political combination to see us survive which doesn't involve either of the current mobsters who are leading the main parties.
 
George Hannah said:
If you're right the country is definitely finished, but all is not lost - you could be wrong. Hopefully the electorate will find a political combination to see us survive which doesn't involve either of the current mobsters who are leading the main parties.
Click to expand...
Hung Parliament, with either a Lab/Lib Dem combo or Tory/BP alliance.
 
Vic said:
And they're the first time voters who got Leave over the line.
Click to expand...
Vic said:
And they're the first time voters who got Leave over the line.
Click to expand...
Ban-jani said:
This is the line of apathy towards politics in general and it’s a sad and incorrect view for anyone to take.

Whether or not you agree with them or dislike them. You simply cannot sit there and say that Johnson is the same as Corbyn or Swinson is the same as Skinner or Rees-Mogg is the same as Lucas.

We’ve got left, right, centre, Green and separatist in parliament currently and you can choose to vote for which ever fits your view.

If you’re unhappy with the vast difference between rich and poor and want social and economic justice, vote Labour. If you want to remain in the EU and have some stability in the economy, vote LibDem. If you want to leave with a no deal, vote Farage. If you want a blonde clown who doesn’t know what he’s doing, vote Tory. If you want to radically change our approach to climate change, vote Green. If you’re in Scotland and want to be independent, vote SNP.

Of course there’s cross over on policies in some areas but there’s a huge amount of differing options for you.

Disclaimer- the above was supposed to be a neutral post but I genuinely didn’t know what to write for the Tories.
Click to expand...

Well put but....
Swinson wanted a referendum a few years back now wants to revoke article 50 without even a second vote, so for me zero trust at all
Corbyn want to vote against his own deal, so he can stAy on the fence
Boris is a clown

I can’t say I feel I have a lot of options to go At
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Doesn't matter. They won't win the majority they need so as to implement it.

Personally I think their stance is crude; vote Labour, we'll get a "better" deal with the EU, which we'll then put to the public to vote for in a referendum and then campaign AGAINST it.

It's mature... but nonsense from an electorate point of view. Why vote for a deal we know the ones who arranged it, don't support it?
Click to expand...

Labour have sold a lot of their long term voters down the river on Brexit
They may not like it but they should honour the vote
I have voted labour all my life but I can’t do it this time.
Add to that I don’t want to vote conservative or lib dem either
Personally I think that labour are handing the majority on plate to boris
Then when he has a big majority we will be truly fucked
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
This is the sort of thought provoking engagement that I like to see from certain 'remainers'.

Lifts the veil of your faux saccharine bullshit. You don't seek a compromise or wish to heal the divisions, you just want your own way and fuck anyone else for disagreeing.

You've been "very busy today" but still found time to debate brexit on a football forum with someone you've admitted you find to be dumb...
tenor.gif


The amount of crap people come out with on here at times!

I'm one of those searching for a compromise, trying to find solutions, but you seem to be one of those trying to find negatives in everything. If you're not willing to be civil, if you won't engage with those you disagree with, then what's the point? Stop treating no dealers (as i've stopped seeing remainers) as the "enemy" and come to understand each other's positions, with respect.
Click to expand...
You want us to understand the No Dealer’s position with respect?
People like Farage, Mogg, Francois, Duncan Smith and Johnson?
Fuck that.

I respect Brexiters who don’t want to fuck over the country for their own ends which doesn’t include any No Dealers.
 
Tb1981 said:
Well put but....
Swinson wanted a referendum a few years back now wants to revoke article 50 without even a second vote, so for me zero trust at all
Corbyn want to vote against his own deal, so he can stAy on the fence
Boris is a clown

I can’t say I feel I have a lot of options to go At
Click to expand...

My suggestion is work out who’s most likely to beat the Tories in your constituency and vote for them.

As long as it’s not the BNP, UKIP or Brexit Party.
 
Ban-jani said:
My suggestion is work out who’s most likely to beat the Tories in your constituency and vote for them.

As long as it’s not the BNP, UKIP or Brexit Party.
Click to expand...

Personally I think brexit party May hoover up in the north of England
And I think that’s sAys more about labour not appealing to its core than anything the Tory’s can offer
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Doesn't matter. They won't win the majority they need so as to implement it.

Personally I think their stance is crude; vote Labour, we'll get a "better" deal with the EU, which we'll then put to the public to vote for in a referendum and then campaign AGAINST it.

It's mature... but nonsense from an electorate point of view. Why vote for a deal we know the ones who arranged it, don't support it?
Click to expand...
Not a huge fan of their ambiguous stance either, although obviously I find it preferable to Johnson’s extreme approach. That’s not saying much though. Think they would’ve been much better off unequivocally backing remain though. The election is going to be fought purely on Brexit lines and they will suffer heavily as a result.
 
Some tidbits.

Nick Gutteridge (Sun)
Michel Barnier told EU states this week Britain’s backstop plan falls ‘outside’ his negotiating mandate because the UK Govt has ‘given up’ on avoiding a hard border. He said PM Johnson’s insistence there’s progress towards a deal has ‘no basis in reality’.

Politico
“Boris is lying all the time, I don't think there's anyone around left who trusts him” - an EU diplomat on why hopes of a Brexit deal in Brussels are now virtually nil.

https://www.politico.eu/article/brussels-brexit-eu-loses-faith-in-volatile-uk/

And Mail on Sunday may have gone insane. It is also possible Johnson may move to lock oppostion MPs in the Tower.

 
Tb1981 said:
Personally I think brexit party May hoover up in the north of England
And I think that’s sAys more about labour not appealing to its core than anything the Tory’s can offer
Click to expand...

They won’t mate, Labour will win but with a coalition.

Brexit Party will be nowhere near, they’re just the racist vote.
 
How embarrassing is it to see all these Brexit adverts about leaving on the 31st, bought and paid for by HMRC and we’re not even going to leave.

We really are a country ran by losers.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Unread Posts

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top