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bluejon said:
This woman was on the left, she was killed by a far right loon. The accusation is being thrown at the PM that the language he is using is making the death threats aimed at female MPs more likely, and he also claimed that the best way to honour Jo Cox was to carry out brexit, something she was known to be against. How in the fuck you lot have managed to find a way to start crying that this is somehow being weaponised towards you is beyond me.
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I’d have thought it was quite obvious that when he said about honouring Jo by “getting Brexit done” that he meant that although she was a Remainer, she’d have been in favour of honouring the vote.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Just curious......

What do posters think would be the outcome on a Scotland indyref vote right now - if exclusively held amongst English voters?

Genuine question BTW
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That’s for the people of Scotland really. Unless you are wanting an England Indy ref from the uk, which I doubt there would be too much support.

However if the people of Scotland voted to leave, bah humbug.

It would be very complicated though and not easy and whilst I would welcome not listening to the snp’s Hatred of the English normalised as it is at the moment, I really want less political turmoil in all our lives if I am honest so I hope they don’t have a ref anytime soon.
 
M18CTID said:
I’d have thought it was quite obvious that when he said about honouring Jo by “getting Brexit done” that he meant that although she was a Remainer, she’d have been in favour of honouring the vote.
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How good of the Prime Minister to speak for the dead when they cannot answer that point.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
It was the labour MPs who brought it up not Johnson. He responded. They used her sad death as a weapon.

This was after being stood on his feet for a couple of hours getting abused over and over again called name after name by labour and snp MPs

The mad lefties have got effigies of Tory’s hung from a bridge over the Irwell today. Last week a rapper at the mercury music awards held Johnson’s decapitated head up on the stage.

It’s funny but when the Tories have their conference all and sundry lefties protest and call them names and have signs outside and hurl general abuse at them.

Funny when labour have their conferences those considered more right wing don’t camp outside and protest and hurl abuse at them.
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This is why centre minded people are not going to be attracted to vote Labour, this is why they are un electable. This is why moderate people find it ironic that the howls of outrage at the apparent rise of the far right in this country somewhat confusing given that there is very clearly considerably more extremists on the left than ever on the far right. Millions upon millions of Tory hating voters left with little option other than spoiling their paper or not bothering to show come election day. A chance to bring down the Tories good and proper squandered because of the leftist doctrine calling for death and destruction on their opponents without having the intelligence to realise that it is they the extreme left that pose a far bigger threat than the far right do, oblivious that there behaviours and policies will do nothing more than drive the centre and the moderate further and further away. There only answer to those millions is to accuse them of being racist bigots and zealots when infact the opposite is true.

I personally will never forgive this shower for opening the door to another decade or more of Tory rule...shame on each and every one of them.
 
west didsblue said:
Just an opinion based on their behaviour.

I think the chances are that Scotland is highly likely to secede anyway whatever happens. Nailed on with no deal but highly likely with any form of Brexit or even remain. The general mistrust of Westminster that is there at the best of times has only got worse and dragging them out of the EU when 62% voted to remain in it isn't going to make matters better. Johnson/Cummings know this and in their world the fact that Johnson would then have 53 less opposition seats to worry about makes it very attractive for them to shit on the Scots.
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Strange that you can say that you hold this opinion - yet ran for cover when asked to debate it

Obvious conclusions drawn - of course the reality is that Scotland would not leave the UK if the UK had already left the EU

But you are not able to understand why and run and hide to avoid being embarrassed in debate
 
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blueinsa said:
They brought her death into the conversation in Parliament!
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So that’s “no one” then.

They said that they’re receiving death threats and the attackers are using Johnson’s words and that he should calm them, so that another Jo Cox murder doesn’t happen.

How’s that speaking for her? They’re speaking for themselves.
 
Ban-jani said:
So that’s “no one” then.

They said that they’re receiving death threats and the attackers are using Johnson’s words and that he should calm them, so that another Jo Cox murder doesn’t happen.

How’s that speaking for her? They’re speaking for themselves.
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After two hours of calling him a ****,liar etc etc etc

Fake outrage.
 
Ban-jani said:
Some of the rumours and accusations are worrying but are they proven to be fact and what were his motivations behind such meetings? That’s what matters and it’s very inconclusive.

The armed forces point is a poor one, I must say. The Tories have stripped them and stripped them since 2010 and Labour’s policy is to invest more and grow the armed forces.

I disagree with Corbyn’s Trident position but he’s still going to reinvest the money elsewhere, in the military.

His Brexit position I have been critical of but this doesn’t make him dangerous, he’s certainly not anywhere as dangerous as the man in power now, who has contempt for our parliament and democracy.
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Cameron and Osborne acted disgracefully and very irresponsibly toward the armed forces no doubt you are quite right, but how can you possibly trust a man who would scrap our nuclear weapons, how can you trust a man who is insane enough to say he will scrap Trident but keep what would be a completely useless fleet of submarines, keep the aircraft carriers but scrap the F35 that would operate from them. These are not the ideas of a sane man or an electable party, truly ridiculous.

I agree he is not as dangerous as Boris right at this moment for one reason only....Boris is in power Corbyn is not.
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
After two hours of calling him a ****,liar etc etc etc

Fake outrage.
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I’m surprised someone used the word “****” in parliament but fair play, liar too, considering it’s not allowed.

Although it was Ken Clarke who said the Prime Minister has a fantastic ability to keep and a straight face whilst he’s being completely disingenuous.

Do you think it was fake outrage when someone tried to break into Jess Phillips’s office recently?

Or when the daughter of another MP said she couldn’t sleep after reading the death threats and abuse?
 
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