I am afraid you will often be waiting
Brexit has 'done something' to you and - IMO - you have morphed into the sort of individual full of the intolerance and bitterness that you used to rise above. Your posts used to be of interest and the content worth considering and thoughtfully responding to.
Perhaps you will break free of the pack and rediscover the ability to be objective - let's hope so.
Re my suggestion of how this all will / could pan out. The words were clear and the associated consequences obvious.
Brexit has certainly made me intolerant of idiocy and rudeness.
For what it’s worth, I’m no great fan of Corbyn either but that’s a separate issue. I just don’t understand how anyone can seriously think Boris Johnson is fit for office, particularly in the light of the last few weeks.I might say the same about the numbers who haven't yet realised what a complete twat Corbyn is. There's a few still left and half of them hanging around here.
For what it’s worth, I’m no great fan of Corbyn either but that’s a separate issue. I just don’t understand how anyone can seriously think Boris Johnson is fit for office, particularly in the light of the last few weeks.
That's most interesting, thanks very much for taking the trouble to explain, as you may have guessed I'm no lawyer. It's been a tricky couple of days actually, we've had a City supporting judge friend who's an ex Law Commisioner staying as a house guest and my lay views on loss of sovereignty etc have also been under great strain as a result. He'd also had the AG appearing before him recently and was not well disposed after the great man's frequent absences due to other pressing engagements - which extended the trial by several weeks. We watched Sir Geoffrey's parliamentary statement together on TV and he found his reaction to the SC judgment highly amusing. I shall reflect further on both your comments before trespassing on this subject again.Okay. Here’s what you said.
1. You say it converted convention into common law and it did nothing of the sort. The effect of the convention has been that the power historically has not been exercised in a way that even approached the common law limits of the power. Johnson not only went far beyond the limit of the convention, he went beyond the common law limit too. But make no mistake, the common law power he offended has existed for over 400 years.
2. You then say it prescribed new limits to a prerogative power. Again, it did nothing of the sort. All royal prerogative powers have always been subject to common law limits. Again, that principle has been recognised for 400 years.
3. It follows that far from having good reason to complain that is based on a misunderstanding of the judgment. He had no grounds for complaining at all. Had he followed the convention he would have not have come anywhere close to breaking the law. Because he ignored the convention completely he ran the fish of a finding his advice was unlawful, and that’s exactly what he got.
BTW when you next say the opposition parties asked the courts politically to supervise the executive in relation to what you say is a constitutional obligation to allow a general election, I assume here you were making a point that was separate to the judgment as it has got absolutely nothing to do with the judgment at all. But as it happens I think you are quite wrong about that too. Under the fixed term parliament act there is no obligation to bring about a General Election just because the government of the day wants one. That is the whole point of the act.
No I said maybe it was him, yes.
By the way, you didn’t come back on my post earlier, that stated the PM sets the election date and parliament is suspended for 25 days once a GE is called.
A different perspective which if the polls are anything to go by, is that we had a referendum 3 years ago which leave won.There’s a lot of conservatives that are thinking the same too, I was speaking to a few earlier today. It is worrying though that nowadays people have gone so partisan in their beliefs that they become blind to what’s normal at times.
A different perspective which if the polls are anything to go by, is that we had a referendum 3 years ago which leave won.
3 years later we still have not left. Boris stood for the Tory leader role very very explicitly that he would take us out on October 31st come what may. And he was elected on that basis. He could not have been more clear on the basis upon which he stood.
Now he's doing nothing more than trying to deliver on his commitment.
The shyster ??????
Seems to me those who find his behaviour unacceptable are virtually all if not absolutely all, Remainers.
And those who find his behaviour acceptable are predominantly Leavers or Tory zealots, etc and so on.Seems to me those who find his behaviour unacceptable are virtually all if not absolutely all, Remainers.
Hahahaha hahaha. What piffle honestly. Do you think he's like Cary Grant in To Catch a Thief? Hahahaha.
And re your post - was it a question? Yes I explained myself how 25 days from when Boris called for a GE would have been plenty of time.
For what it’s worth, I’m no great fan of Corbyn either but that’s a separate issue. I just don’t understand how anyone can seriously think Boris Johnson is fit for office, particularly in the light of the last few weeks.
Take a look at yourself in the mirror mate.A different perspective which if the polls are anything to go by, is that we had a referendum 3 years ago which leave won.
3 years later we still have not left. Boris stood for the Tory leader role very very explicitly that he would take us out on October 31st come what may. And he was elected on that basis. He could not have been more clear on the basis upon which he stood.
Now he's doing nothing more than trying to deliver on his commitment.
The shyster ??????
Seems to me those who find his behaviour unacceptable are virtually all if not absolutely all, Remainers.
Take a look at yourself in the mirror mate.
You're an old school one nation Tory looking the other way so you can justify to yourself supporting a gangster Tory government.
I am assuming that you were as confused when writing this post as I was when reading it
What a total load of bollocks
This is the transparent fabrication of Remainers who - having thought for 2 years that they had gotten Brexit cancelled - are now having bladder problems.
All the extreme language I am reading on this thread as I catch up comes from the left _ of course desperately seeking to smear the moderates as far right.
Pretty obvious - and IMO sad
Well the polls suggest your mates are atypical.Sorry, I wasn’t talking about Brexit at all with that, just responding to the post about Johnson. No, they’re not all remainers. You thinking they are is, slightly ironically, proving my point :)
I think there may well be a hung Parliament again tbh. Many moderate Conservatives and pro-Leave Labour voters will find the notion of voting for Johnson just as unpalatable as those you claim simply couldn’t vote Labour.I dont think many do, including a sizeable chunk of the leave supporting fraternity. Its simply a case of at this moment what is the alternative? The cupboard is bare.
Honestly I think there will be a low turnout at the next election and alot of spoilt papers.
I think many will take the view that they will have to vote Tory to keep Corbyn out, who in turn may manage to persuade a fair few youngsters to vote for him. The ardent remainers may vote Lib dem, and the ardent Leavers for Farage. The highest turn out and biggest wins could come in Scotland where you have to suspect the SNP will pretty much clean up.
Many like myself are left with no choice to make, we are the moderate centre everyday normal people but the fact that the Labour party are far left and the Tories despite the piffle spoken about them being far right are sadly the closest to the centre and could well win the election on that basis. They wont get my vote but if I were forced to vote for one or the other it would be Tory.
There are millions who have endured the bile and hatred of the left wing remain camp on the basis of wishing to leave the EU that it is highly unlikely we will ever vote Labour again whilst it holds the support of those who have made such accusations. I for one will never stand by the side of or shake the hand or vote for a person who has made such inaccurate and unacceptable accusations.
If I was to go back, in this very thread, it would be YOU & your fucking pals, whining like stuck up spoilt childeren how you have had your fucing Brexit destroyed by 'no deal' being 'gone' us telling you it's still fucking there & now you are saying it's us who are SUDDENLY realising it.
You are horrible.
There’s a lot of conservatives that are thinking the same too, I was speaking to a few earlier today. It is worrying though that nowadays people have gone so partisan in their beliefs that they become blind to what’s normal at times.
Agreed.And those who find his behaviour acceptable are predominantly Leavers or Tory zealots, etc and so on.