The Conservative Party

[urban genie]

If.

You.doubt it?

 

[Banned Tosspot]

You.doubt it?

Might be true, might be a lie.

Look at the accuser's Twitter. She's obsessed.

 

[allblackcitizen]

If.

He's a proven plagiarist, a proven liar, a proven adulterer and cuckold, and a racist to boot. Of course he's a sex pest as well. How could anyone believe otherwise, when he's accused by one of his own who no-one doubts is telling the truth?

All these points should be hammered home ruthlessly by his opponents. The opposition parties should be making it clear to the media and the public that they cannot and will not deal with him because he is a liar and untrustworthy. He should be called out every single minute of every single day.

 

[Chris in London]

If.

Yes, if. I agree with your post.

Do you agree with mine?

 

[RabidCity]

I'm not a fan of Boris, but the timing is very suspicious, and a hand on a knee, judged by 1999 standards, is pretty tame.
Innocent in both cases until proven guilty.

 

[Chris in London]

Innocent in both cases until proven guilty.

Yes. But here’s the problem.

Suppose she was a young journalist and was groped by a politician. You’d expect her to remember it.

Well, she’s given a detailed account of what happened,when it happened, where she was in relation to him and who she discussed it with that same evening. She is a person that members of government and opposition appear to hold in high regard as regards her general truthfulness.

It doesn’t necessarily prove it’s true but it’s enough for a conviction if a jury believed her.

Boris, who recently denied saying millions had been spaffed up the wall investigating historical sexual abuse cases when many recordings of him saying exactly that exist, has issued a bare denial.

Who do you believe?

 

[Chippy_boy]

You're forgetting lads, guilty until proven innocent. He's filthy Tory fascist scum remember. Sorry, filthy Tory lying fascist scum.

Not that this is inflammatory language mind. Not like "humbug".

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Invited for a pint after work from an old firend and now working out which part of town won't be infested with people I don't like


Rags to the left of me tories to right

;-)

Your mate’s name isn’t Hugh by any chance?

Stuck in the middle with Hugh.

No.
Ah well never mind.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Another aide to the great leader quits because of the right wing fascist take over.


https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-johnson-aide-quits-as-downing-street-adviser

 

[worsleyweb]

I'm not a fan of Boris, but the timing is very suspicious, and a hand on a knee, judged by 1999 standards, is pretty tame.
Innocent in both cases until proven guilty.

It’s a fucking joke. 25 years ago people still pinched people’s arses in clubs. An absolute joke that this has come out now.

 

[urban genie]

I'm not a fan of Boris, but the timing is very suspicious, and a hand on a knee, judged by 1999 standards, is pretty tame.
Innocent in both cases until proven guilty.

The timing is just that, and isn't important, if he did it then that is what counts.

 

[urban genie]

It’s a fucking joke. 25 years ago people still punched people’s arses in clubs. An absolute joke that this has come out now.

Puched peoples arses?

 

[allblackcitizen]

Puched peoples arses?

Maybe he's got it arse about face?

 

[TheBlueDune]

I've seen more enthusiasm at a funeral

https://metro.co.uk/2019/09/29/cons...-exciting-for-some-audience-members-10829710/

 

[allblackcitizen]

I'm not a fan of Boris, but the timing is very suspicious, and a hand on a knee, judged by 1999 standards, is pretty tame.
Innocent in both cases until proven guilty.

She says it was her inner thigh, but in some ways I agree with you, in which case why doesn't he have the balls to come out and say "yes I was a bit of a flirt. Everyone knows that. It was in the past. I'm sorry for any hurt or offence". But no, he's issued a bare denial and by default called his accuser a liar. He won't do the right thing because he's a coward and a fucking liar is why. Everyone knows it. We have a PM who is a fucking coward and a fucking liar.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Yes. But here’s the problem.

Suppose she was a young journalist and was groped by a politician. You’d expect her to remember it.

Well, she’s given a detailed account of what happened,when it happened, where she was in relation to him and who she discussed it with that same evening. She is a person that members of government and opposition appear to hold in high regard as regards her general truthfulness.

It doesn’t necessarily prove it’s true but it’s enough for a conviction if a jury believed her.

Boris, who recently denied saying millions had been spaffed up the wall investigating historical sexual abuse cases when many recordings of him saying exactly that exist, has issued a bare denial.

Who do you believe?

If the lass on the other side of him who said he did the same to her goes public he is fucked.

 

[bluethrunthru]

Still waiting for the Tory Boys on here to come out in rapturous support of Javids attempt to out Labour, Labour. £10.50 and hour..........I thought that was magic money tree stuff ? Ruinous as its a chancellor spending money that businesses have to pay as a political stunt, ruination of the country etc etc.............come on...lets be 'avin yer

 

[TheBlueDune]

Still waiting for the Tory Boys on here to come out in rapturous support of Javids attempt to out Labour, Labour. £10.50 and hour..........I thought that was magic money tree stuff ? Ruinous as its a chancellor spending money that businesses have to pay as a political stunt, ruination of the country etc etc.............come on...lets be 'avin yer

Living wage, not to be confused with minimum wage.

 

[Rascal]

The average person can be quite overwhelmed by those close to power and I am certain quite scared of the ridicule of what those with power can inflict. In Johnsons case he has the whole right wing media behind him and I imagine it takes a very brave woman to speak up, if one speaks up, others might think now is the time for me to do so too. The dam could break and by weekend it could become a deluge. How many would it take before people take notice?

If it is just the one woman of course her accusations should be taken with the utmost seriousness, if its two then it becomes a real problem for Johnson, more and he is in deep shit, politically if not criminally.

The Conservative Party has always seen itself as party of virtue, much to their credit, how long that will remain with Johnson in charge who the fucks knows in todays Brexit climate, especially as a large number of people see getting Brexit finished and done with is more important than traditional Conservative party values.

 

[mackenzie]

The average person can be quite overwhelmed by those close to power and I am certain quite scared of the ridicule of what those with power can inflict. In Johnsons case he has the whole right wing media behind him and I imagine it takes a very brave woman to speak up, if one speaks up, others might think now is the time for me to do so too. The dam could break and by weekend it could become a deluge. How many would it take before people take notice?

If it is just the one woman of course her accusations should be taken with the utmost seriousness, if its two then it becomes a real problem for Johnson, more and he is in deep shit, politically if not criminally.

The Conservative Party has always seen itself as party of virtue, much to their credit, how long that will remain with Johnson in charge who the fucks knows in todays Brexit climate, especially as a large number of people see getting Brexit finished and done with is more important than traditional Conservative party values.

It used to be said (at least when I was young) that a Labour scandal was usually a financial one whilst a Tory was usually a sexual.one
Johnson might be going for both at this rate.