Another new Brexit thread

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

I think they will but it’s a guess

I was listening to LBC this week and their political correspondent Theo Usherwood (quite an intelligent guy) suggested the ERGs vote could align with the DUP.
We shall see

 

[Dubai Blue]

I think they will but it’s a guess

If this deal gets voted down on Saturday, doesn't that re-open the possibility of no deal? And presumably that would delight certain members of the ERG.

 

[Ban-jani]

I was listening to LBC this week and their political correspondent Theo Usherwood (quite an intelligent guy) suggested the ERGs vote could align with the DUP.
We shall see

G Britain is outside the CU and the SM, NI isn’t but only for a period of time, they need to compromise to get Brexit and I think they might.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

You're assuming all the ERG will back it, that's not a sure thing by any stretch

Surely if they don't, they'd all have to be booted out?

 

[Ban-jani]

If this deal gets voted down on Saturday, doesn't that re-open the possibility of no deal? And presumably that would delight certain members of the ERG.

No, Parliament has to vote on no deal.

 

[Gabriel]

EU already briefing that they’ll leave door open for extension. Makes it harder for Johnson to force a take it or leave it on Saturday. They didn’t even give him a day to bask in his glory the sneaky sods.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

Surely if they don't, they'd all have to be booted out?

Sod knows at this point mate

G Britain is outside the CU and the SM, NI isn’t but only for a period of time, they need to compromise to get Brexit and I think they might.

Like I say don't assume anything at this point. Who knows which way people will vote at this point

 

[MillionMilesAway]

If this deal gets voted down on Saturday, doesn't that re-open the possibility of no deal? And presumably that would delight certain members of the ERG.

I think it first require an extension to be requested, which puts the ball back on the EU.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Sod knows at this point mate

Fair point, well made!

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Really pleased with how this has panned out, I knew Boris was the man ;). Realistically the best deal we could have hoped for. Just need the DUP to wake up and smell the coffee and we’re there. Failing that, Boris pisses the election when it comes.

can I order a unicorn off you for Christmas?

 

[Coatigan]

Surely if they don't, they'd all have to be booted out?

No that only works for remainers. Brexit MPs and Tories can block it all they want

 

[meltonblue]

I think it might get through on Saturday, I don't think the ERG will align with the DUP, at least the vast majority won't.

Personally, I don't like the deal at all and think it's far worse than Mays (which I would have voted for). If it does get through though, we at least move onto the next stage and a big part of me just wants that to happen now regardless. Theres still an awful lot of pain to go through until we get to any potential positives, which will be well in the future.

 

[aguero93:20]

Farage is the best today coming out in defence of the Benn act pmsl.

None of them have any shame.

Does it bother you that he does so?

 

[aguero93:20]

So, parliament vote it down, Benn act kicks in and Boris writes his letter, the EU ask what the extension is for and BJ says it's for nothing. No GE, no second referendum, and he can't present an unchanged bill again thanks to the upholder of democracy that is John Bercow. What happens then?

Bercow is done on the 31st and has no appearance.

 

[Coatigan]

Anyone know what our settlement bill is, no change there in this deal?

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

I think it might get through on Saturday, I don't think the ERG will align with the DUP, at least the vast majority won't.

Personally, I don't like the deal at all and think it's far worse than Mays (which I would have voted for). If it does get through though, we at least move onto the next stage and a big part of me just wants that to happen now regardless. Theres still an awful lot of pain to go through until we get to any potential positives, which will be well in the future.

This in some way has been the easy bit, we've simply negotiated our exit.
Negotiating a trade deal will be an even bigger P.I.T.A

 

[aguero93:20]

Yet nothing will ever happen without the consent of the Northern Irish citizens so effectively the Unionists have a veto.

Both sides need to have a veto. I think I tried to explain this before.

 

[aguerrrroooooooooooo]

So, parliament vote it down, Benn act kicks in and Boris writes his letter, the EU ask what the extension is for and BJ says it's for nothing. No GE, no second referendum, and he can't present an unchanged bill again thanks to the upholder of democracy that is John Bercow. What happens then?

A penalty shootout between the conservatives and Lib Dems to decide if we revoke or not

 

[aguero93:20]

Atm it looks like Corbyn has been outmanoeuvred and so Boris might be the hero come Saturday night.

However I have long felt that in the GE people will say, as they did with Churchill,' thanks for everything you've done ' but now it's time for a change.

If Johnson can get it past parliament with a 60+ seat minority.

 

[hilts]

Anyone know what our settlement bill is, no change there in this deal?

33 billion