Epstein / Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor / Maxwell

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LeeJay said:
They've been playing us for a long time. Why Andrew continued to meet with Epstein after he was convicted, is either poor judgement, or suspicious at the very least. Epstein, Maxwell, the Clinton's, Trump, Prince Andrew...

but: members of the royal family colluding with a pedophile isn't anything new. Charles was good friends with Peter Ball, a priest who was convicted of abuse - Charles regularly sent him 'gifts of money' and put him up in a house in the duchy free of charge while he got his life back together. And, oc, the royals' (particularly Philip, Charles and Diana) friendship with Savile raises some very serious alarm bells. If we're to believe that 'insiders' within the BBC, BBC execs etc etc knew about Savile and his abuse - as has been suggested, many, many times, and openly declared by many - then Prince Charles' security detail would be very aware of what he was up to: they would have vetted anyone and everyone who came into close contact with Charles to the #th degree. And if his security detail knew what Savile was up to, then you can bet that Charles did too. And that isn't to mention Savile's ties with the Yorkshire ripper and the murders around Leeds.

The Royals managed to distance themselves from any dirt on that front, so perhaps Andrew thought that he could do the same. Andrew forgets he's not indispensable.....
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Spot on re the security vetting anyone they have contact with.
 
Fame Monster said:
Make no mistake, if that was me or you being accused of having an orgy with underage girls and a convicted paedophile, the police would be smashing in our door faster than Andrew did with that girl on the doc.
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Were the girls that took part in the orgy underage? I’ve not watched the documentary so don’t know.
 
Fame Monster said:
Allegedly, yes. She said the girls looked under 18. And ironically, the orgy was in the U.S. Virgin Islands where the age of consent is 18.
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Still think it’s unlikely the UK police would knock one’s door down for shagging a few 17 year olds in the Virgin (wahey) Islands.
 
SWP's back said:
Were the girls that took part in the orgy underage? I’ve not watched the documentary so don’t know.
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Watched most of it and have it recorded, but it was mentioned that on the private island there were girls as young as 14.
The elite classes think they are above scrutiny.
The whole thing was making me sick, watching it. Nauseous with contempt for these people.
There's a whole secret scene organised for these rich pricks and they prey on young poor females in particular.
A lot of people implicated from Trump to Andrew to Peter Mandleson, Epstein of course, some French dude (Trudeau, I think) who was investigated as long back as the 80's. Fergie, Maxwell's daughter. What is it with the ruling classes, do they get bored with the mundane and seek out more and more to exploit.
Up to their necks in it.
Bunch of privileged pricks, the lot of them.
 
SWP's back said:
Still think it’s unlikely the UK police would knock one’s door down for shagging a few 17 year olds in the Virgin (wahey) Islands.
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I suppose it depends on whether they were 17 or younger, and whether they were part of a sex trafficking operation. At the very least, they should be asking him questions as well as investigating whether Epstein and Maxwell were grooming in this country.
 
A prosecution can be brought in the UK for a sex crime Under the terms of the jurisdiction where it happened.
So sex with a 17 year old in the Virgin Islands by a UK citizen could be prosecuted in the UK.
 
KS55 said:
Well they met, but ties? You could find a photo of me with Sutcliffe as we drank in the same pub, but I had no ties to him.
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Google it, it’s more than one picture.
One of the ripper’s victims was found in Roundhay Park behind Jimmy’s flat. Police even interviewed him and took moulds of his teeth because the victim had bite marks on her body. Some people suggest the ripper may not have been acting alone.
 
Machiavelli said:
Google it, it’s more than one picture.
One of the ripper’s victims was found in Roundhay Park behind Jimmy’s flat. Police even interviewed him and took moulds of his teeth because the victim had bite marks on her body. Some people suggest the ripper may not have been acting alone.
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....and they are talking crap. No evidence, conspiracy theory. And the photos were taken at Broadmoor when Savile worked there and Sutcliffe was a patient. Perhaps, as someone who drank next to Sutcliffe, I am the third party.
 
'Guests who have spent time on Epstein's private island Little St James, a stunning, 72-acre patch of the U.S. Virgin Islands, have included a virtual Who’s Who of celebrities — from Bill Clinton to Naomi Campbell, Stephen Hawking and, perhaps most notoriously, our very own Prince Andrew. On various trips to Chateau Epstein, they’ve spent days or even weeks sunbathing on his private beaches, swimming in his pools or playing tennis on his personal court'.

The net gets wider.
 
KS55 said:
....and they are talking crap. No evidence, conspiracy theory. And the photos were taken at Broadmoor when Savile worked there and Sutcliffe was a patient. Perhaps, as someone who drank next to Sutcliffe, I am the third party.
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That photo was.
Do you have any evidence you sat drinking next to him, or are you talking crap?
 
Machiavelli said:
That photo was.
Do you have any evidence you sat drinking next to him, or are you talking crap?
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Ha! Ferrand's Arms, Bingley. Don't think I have photos, but, if required, a string of witnesses will testify that I am the third man.
 
liamctid said:
I guess it's more likely that Frank Bruno and Sutcliffe were mates (hence why they're shaking hands). Is there any proof that Savile wasn't photoshopped into this picture?
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Bruno says he was tricked into those photos and did not know that the man was Sutcliffe. No idea why Savile would do that.
 
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