Another new Brexit thread

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Ancient Citizen said:
After the incessant mithering from the Slimming World avoider that is Blackford, what would be magnificently
hilarious, is him and his irritating SNP winning another Jock referendum, then being told by the British parliament
that they can't leave until they get a 'Deal.'
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Their time will come, with BoJo in charge he'll get his pyrrhic Brexit and the SNP will get a lingering death with no independence referendum for 10 years.
 
Ancient Citizen said:
After the incessant mithering from the Slimming World avoider that is Blackford, what would be magnificently
hilarious, is him and his irritating SNP winning another Jock referendum, then being told by the British parliament
that they can't leave until they get a 'Deal.'
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What is completely staggering is that there is anyone in the UK who finds the odious fat twat even remotely appealing, his wife included. Let alone enough people to have actually elected him into a position of prominence. Truly amazing.
 
lust overlord said:
Not a liar in this case,circumstance did for him.
Raises more questions about his judgement,or lack of,though.
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...and as many about that of others, as well of the motivations of those who spent the previous month telling us he couldn't get a deal which was what they were all pretending they were about.
 
Yes .... Its funny tho isn't it that the conservatives have raised the age that you can collect your state pension to 67 but still give free prescriptions to the over 60's



its almost like they want the NHS to fail due to costs
 
Ifwecouldjust....... said:
Yes .... Its funny tho isn't it that the conservatives have raised the age that you can collect your state pension to 67 but still give free prescriptions to the over 60's



its almost like they want the NHS to fail due to costs
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That 67 year eligibility will go up sooner or later if Mr Duncan Smith gets his way.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
BJ said he'd do something, opponents managed to stop him, opponents then claim it didn't happen because BJ is a liar.
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I guess the lessons are don’t promise something and then expect your opponents to accommodate you and always give yourself some wriggle room. No one made Johnson strap himself to his do or die promise. No one expects the opposition to not use it against him. Politics is a rough business and all that.
 
aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
Do I get my fish and blue passports back today?
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And your new 50p piece to celebrate?

Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
BJ said he'd do something, opponents managed to stop him, opponents then claim it didn't happen because BJ is a liar.
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Just a gentle reminder ......de Pfeffel pulled his own bill .... he wasn't 'stopped' as you allege ..... the WAB was passed for a second reading ..... its just that Parliament wanted the time to read and scrutinise to make sure it was fit for purpose.

So after pulling his own bill he asked for a general election which Parliament agreed to.

Which bit of shooting yourself in your own foot is his 'opponents managed to stop him' .... he could easily have extended the scrutiny period but didn't.


Because it would mean that the UK would have to implement the Eu Tax Avoidance Directive
 
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Ifwecouldjust....... said:
And your new 50p piece to celebrate?




Just a gentle reminder ......de Pfeffel pulled his own bill .... he wasn't 'stopped' as you allege ..... the WAB was passed for a second reading ..... its just that Parliament wanted the time to read and scrutinise to make sure it was fit for purpose.

So after pulling his own bill he asked for a general election which Parliament agreed to.

Which bit of shooting yourself in your own foot is his 'opponents managed to stop him' .... he could easily have extended the scrutiny period but didn't.


Because it would mean that the UK would have to implement the Eu Tax Avoidance Directive
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Might be worth a not at all patronising and equally gentle reminder to yourself that not pulling the bill and allowing further 'scrutiny' would have made BJ complicit in the breaking of his Halloween promise and therefore a lier. I'm no BJ fan btw and think he is a lier and a general dick. I do object though to being asked by those who lied about further renegotiations of the deal being impossible, and that they just want to avoid no deal when they want remain to believe that they are guardians of the truth.
A GE at this point seems the most honest way forward for all - even those who claim to be telling 'the truth' about the reasons they will not be standing.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Might be worth a not at all patronising and equally gentle reminder to yourself that not pulling the bill and allowing further 'scrutiny' would have made BJ complicit in the breaking of his Halloween promise and therefore a lier.
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Perhaps he shouldn't make promises to the electorate he know he can't keep for certain?
 
aguerrrroooooooooooo said:
Perhaps he shouldn't make promises to the electorate he know he can't keep for certain?
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Maybe. But it's maybe also worth climbing out of our little shells to take an objective look at who is lying. BJ seems to have done everything within his power to keep his promise, which cannot be said of the rest of Parliament who promised to uphold the referendum result. I've no problem with either breaking promises btw, but I object to being asked to regard the 'we just want a deal' lies as somehow ok in comparison to BJ or anyone else's brexit lies. The problem with two sets of lies competing to be the truth is that the public may vote for the lies you don't like - see June 2016.
 
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