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Perhaps he should stop lying, might help him in that respect.

Maybe people should stop being sheep and accusing him because its the "in" thing to do right now?

He did what Parliament asked him to do and when the remainers and opposition realised it, they then set about moving the goal posts again the fucking "liars".

Easy this "liars" game and on the 12th, we will see who thinks the real liars are i suppose.
 
Maybe people should stop being sheep and accusing him because its the "in" thing to do right now?

He did what Parliament asked him to do and when the remainers and opposition realised it, they then set about moving the goal posts again the fucking "liars".

Easy this "liars" game and on the 12th, we will see who thinks the real liars are i suppose.

He lied to the Queen.
He lied to the electorate about brexit being done by the 31st.
He lied about not sending a request for an extension.
He lied about no border in the Irish sea.

He can't help himself but lie when he opens his mouth, he's an international embarrassment
 
He lied to the Queen.
He lied to the electorate about brexit being done by the 31st.
He lied about not sending a request for an extension.
He lied about no border in the Irish sea.

He can't help himself but lie when he opens his mouth, he's an international embarrassment

Did the Queen tell you personally he lied or are you doing what everyone else has done and just making the assumption to fit your opinion?

Brexit would have been done had remain MP's not lied to the electorate when they where elected on manifesto promises to deliver.

He didn't lie about sending a letter for the extension because he said all along he would comply with the law and did just that.

Lied or changed his mind on the Irish sea border?

I mean Corbyn spent his entire political life campaigning for us to leave the EU so was all that a lie or has he just changed his mind for political reasons?
 
He lied to the Queen.
He lied to the electorate about brexit being done by the 31st.
He lied about not sending a request for an extension.
He lied about no border in the Irish sea.

He can't help himself but lie when he opens his mouth, he's an international embarrassment
I beg to differ... I would imagine the EU see him as the catalyst for change... I didn't see anybody else with the ability to break the impasse

As they say, you need to break a few eggs to make an omelette
 
Maybe by not wasting 2 months bullshitting at the start of his tenure as PM?
Most of that time was when parliament were on their public school length summer holidays, and tbh BJ seems to have wasted less time than anyone else. Any objectivity would allow that he'd done more in a short time to 'do brexit ' than anyone else. The bullshit artists that were so appalled by prorogation spent two days fucking about like kids when they finally forced parliament to open. They may as well have left it closed and let BJ have the extra days in Brussels - but of course they are not liars.
 
Did the Queen tell you personally he lied or are you doing what everyone else has done and just making the assumption to fit your opinion?

Brexit would have been done had remain MP's not lied to the electorate when they where elected on manifesto promises to deliver.

He didn't lie about sending a letter for the extension because he said all along he would comply with the law and did just that.

Lied or changed his mind on the Irish sea border?

I mean Corbyn spent his entire political life campaigning for us to leave the EU so was all that a lie or has he just changed his mind for political reasons?

He's a professional protestor I'll give him that
 
He'll push the rhetoric that the reason Brexit hasn't happened is down to the opposition and I think he'll be successful in doing it but really, he can't really have much of a go at anyone voting against his deal given he did the exact same to his own party leader. It's the conservatives fault they don't have the majority they did when Brexit started as they called the election and lost seats. It was their own MPs that didn't then back their party leaders deal which led to the next impasse and now their own infighting and going against the party propping them up has lost them the majority.

The opposition are doing what they are supposed to, particularly when there has been no real compromise attempts at all since Brexit started (which has been the biggest mistake all along). Had they backed Johnsons deal with significant numbers, they'd be questioned for supporting a deal that goes against their own principles too. Voting for it would have broken their manifesto pledges.

The worry that lots should have though is the more moderate Tories are now dropping like flies and will be replaced by those further right more in alignment with Johnson and the ERG. It's less what that will mean for Brexit (although I do find that very concerning), it's as much everything else that's the concern with that.
 
Did the Queen tell you personally he lied or are you doing what everyone else has done and just making the assumption to fit your opinion?

Brexit would have been done had remain MP's not lied to the electorate when they where elected on manifesto promises to deliver.

He didn't lie about sending a letter for the extension because he said all along he would comply with the law and did just that.

Lied or changed his mind on the Irish sea border?

I mean Corbyn spent his entire political life campaigning for us to leave the EU so was all that a lie or has he just changed his mind for political reasons?

Unanimous decision by judges in the supreme court tells you all you need to know he lied to the Queen.

Brexit would've been done if he hadn't have pulled the WAB after the letwin ammendment, irrelevant anyway because he didn't get it done so he lied (again)

Lied about the extension: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-9-times-boris-johnson-20659428

Irish border:



Here's some more if that isn't enough to prove he's a habitual liar: https://amp.businessinsider.com/bor...errer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s
 
He'll push the rhetoric that the reason Brexit hasn't happened is down to the opposition and I think he'll be successful in doing it but really, he can't really have much of a go at anyone voting against his deal given he did the exact same to his own party leader. It's the conservatives fault they don't have the majority they did when Brexit started as they called the election and lost seats. It was their own MPs that didn't then back their party leaders deal which led to the next impasse and now their own infighting and going against the party propping them up has lost them the majority.

The opposition are doing what they are supposed to, particularly when there has been no real compromise attempts at all since Brexit started (which has been the biggest mistake all along). Had they backed Johnsons deal with significant numbers, they'd be questioned for supporting a deal that goes against their own principles too. Voting for it would have broken their manifesto pledges.

The worry that lots should have though is the more moderate Tories are now dropping like flies and will be replaced by those further right more in alignment with Johnson and the ERG. It's less what that will mean for Brexit (although I do find that very concerning), it's as much everything else that's the concern with that.

Humour me, what is that exactly?
 
Unanimous decision by judges in the supreme court tells you all you need to know he lied to the Queen.

Brexit would've been done if he hadn't have pulled the WAB after the letwin ammendment, irrelevant anyway because he didn't get it done so he lied (again)

Lied about the extension: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-9-times-boris-johnson-20659428

Irish border:



Here's some more if that isn't enough to prove he's a habitual liar: https://amp.businessinsider.com/boris-johnson-broken-promises-london-mayor-conservative-party-leadership-contest-2019-6#aoh=15725333909929&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s


The judges made a judgement, its what they do and for those that agree with it, others wont.

He did nothing illegal as is made out because proroguing parliament is established procedure and instead the period of time alone was deemed unlawful.

He told the Queen it was for a queens speech and his government delivered a queens speech so again, stop saying he lied to the queen because the facts of what transpired doesnt bare that out and you are simply saying it to make it fit your argument.

Ive answered the other points in the last post so wont keep repeating the answer.
 
Did the Queen tell you personally he lied or are you doing what everyone else has done and just making the assumption to fit your opinion?

Brexit would have been done had remain MP's not lied to the electorate when they where elected on manifesto promises to deliver

Just on that, as I see it quite a lot, Labours manifesto is all about how they would negotiate Brexit and what would be their red lines. They haven't changed their opposition to those red lines, voting against Johnsons deal is fully honouring their manifesto. They can't be held to account on their promise of delivery as they aren't in control of that as their manifesto didn't win.
 
He did nothing illegal as is made out because proroguing parliament is established procedure and instead the period of time alone was deemed unlawful.

Obviously incorrect since his proroguing was ruled unlawful. He broke the law, end of.

You haven't answered the others, you've made b.s excuses for him.
 
Just on that, as I see it quite a lot, Labours manifesto is all about how they would negotiate Brexit and what would be their red lines. They haven't changed their opposition to those red lines, voting against Johnsons deal is fully honouring their manifesto. They can't be held to account on their promise of delivery as they aren't in control of that as their manifesto didn't win.

As far as i can see their position is to renegotiate a deal that satisfies all of their red lines, protects jobs, the economy, the environment, workers rights etc etc and that they will then take their deal and campaign against it?

Confused? I know I am because frankly its utter fucking codswallop.

If you are a remainer then vote Lib Dem because Labour wont remain in the EU i will put money on it. The front bench is about as brexity and leave as you can get, they just wont admit to it.

Another gem of late on here. You cant hold them to account for their promises because they are not in power........

Who cant?

I can and will.

I dont think i will be alone either.
 
Obviously incorrect since his proroguing was ruled unlawful. He broke the law, end of.

You haven't answered the others, you've made b.s excuses for him.

The length of time was deemed unlawful.

he broke no law because had he broke the law as you so want to make out charges would have been brought and he would have faced further sanction.

Judges ruled on the length of the prorogation and nothing else.

I answered. You think its bullshit excuses then so be it?

I dont give a fuck either way to be honest with you.
 
As far as i can see their position is to renegotiate a deal that satisfies all of their red lines, protects jobs, the economy, the environment, workers rights etc etc and that they will then take their deal and campaign against it?

Confused? I know I am because frankly its utter fucking codswallop.

If you are a remainer then vote Lib Dem because Labour wont remain in the EU i will put money on it. The front bench is about as brexity and leave as you can get, they just wont admit to it.

Another gem of late on here. You cant hold them to account for their promises because they are not in power........

Who cant?

I can and will.

I dont think i will be alone either.

Yes their current position is ridiculous. What they've done to this point doesn't go against their manifesto from 2017 though.

What promise do you think they had that they've broken? It's akin to them saying in their manifesto "we will put 10000 more police on the street" and then three years of being in opposition later saying to them "you haven't done it, you're liars".

It makes absolutely no sense.
 
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