General Election - December 12th, 2019

[Ancient Citizen]

Stay in, have a pot noodle and wank.

Not bad advice, but make sure it's not at the same time if you lack coordination skills.

 

[Vic]

Ok, ta for responding, is the seat you're canvassing a Labour seat?
And to take it further, what responses are you getting from Tory voters?
Sorry to mither you, but as you appear to be the only one at the 'Sharp end' it's interesting to know.

It's a Labour held marginal.

We don't normally bother asking Tories who they'll vote for because it's wasted time. But some may have said that they were Tories a decade or more ago and (because the Brexit campaigns were not done by parties) we don't really know who the Tory remainers are or how many agree with half the Tory MPs who thought Johnson was not fit to be PM.

Full canvassing (of every elector) is beyond most constituencies these days (some never seem to be in). But we have younger voters we haven't previously contacted in houses where the parents are down as Tories and they often may be Labour.

Today I will be mostly phoning LibDems to see if they'd switch to Labour to keep out the Tories.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Apparently, Tories who won in marginal seats spent over £120k. It goes a long way to explaining why we generally get candidates who all look and sound the same. I’m not sure what you do about it but it can’t encourage anyone vaguely normal or of normal means to stand.

I must say, this aspect of electioneering is news to me, I thought the party, Labour, Tory, whoever stumped it all up.
£120 grand?
Fucking hell.

 

[East Level 2]

We fucked ourselves ....

Exactly; we've taken back control of being fucked. It doesn't matter that the fucking we've given ourselves is far more damaging than any fucking delivered by the EU; it's our fucking and we're in control of it.
A bit like having our own passports but having them printed abroad. We're taking back control of exporting jobs.

 

[Ancient Citizen]

A Fleetwood Mac song comes to mind

Maybe not the one you're thinking of, but I would suggest this, very apt, cracker, incidentally when the founder
Peter Green was involved, and not the confected Yank crap that followed ;)

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Exactly; we've taken back control of being fucked. It doesn't matter that the fucking we've given ourselves is far more damaging than any fucking delivered by the EU; it's our fucking and we're in control of it.
A bit like having our own passports but having them printed abroad. We're taking back control of exporting jobs.

Or giving the contract to monitor the fishing vessels operating in our coastal waters to a french company

 

[blueinsa]

We reckon our last Tory MP spent well over £100k of his own money (he could afford it) in publicity (prior to the actual campaign). If he'd bought every elector a pint, that would be illegal "treating" but he could spend the same on publicity.

I see what you just did but the same would apply to the Labour candidate and Lib Dem candidate buying pints.

 

[Len Rum]

A Fleetwood Mac song comes to mind

Somebody's gonna get their head kicked it tonite ?

 

[mcfc1632]

You're imagining that we are trying to convince Conservatives / Lib Dems / Brexit Party to vote Labour. ..... we're not.


We are trying to convince the 14.5 million who didn't vote to register to vote and vote Labour.

Nope

I was just emphasising :

a) the one trick pony message Labour have collapsed to and

b) that it is not working

It might be the case that Labour do indeed motivate those that normally don't bother to vote to actually make the effort this time.

They might be considering the risk of Abbott in charge of our security and McDonnell in charge of our economy and be thinking - fuck that!!!

 

[Ifwecouldjust.......]

Nope

I was just emphasising :

a) the one trick pony message Labour have collapsed to and

b) that it is not working

It might be the case that Labour do indeed motivate those that normally don't bother to vote to actually make the effort this time.

They might be considering the risk of Abbott in charge of our security and McDonnell in charge of our economy and be thinking - fuck that!!!

All those first time young voters are saying different tho.....

 

[Len Rum]

Meanwhile in other news Harry and Meghan are not spending Christmas with the the Queen the couple have confirmed.
Instead their royal highnesses will spend the holiday this year as a new family with the duchess' mother Doria Ragland.
Election game changer Jeff?

 

[blueinsa]

Immigration = racism day again on here I see.

How did that tactic work out for you in the EU ref?

 

[mcfc1632]

Tories playing to the racist base again .... but this time they're not going to attach numbers to it. BBC still continue to say ' in four weeks time we go to the polls to elect the next Prime Minister'

Which is exactly what we're not doing ...

"Racist base.... "

FFS - some of you guys are so obvious in your need to get tribal and associate labels to 'the other side'

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Immigration = racism day again on here I see.

How did that tactic work out for you in the EU ref?

Calling people racists for voting out was, and still is, the biggest fillip for the leave camp, after the discussions about
who is the most intelligent, it's unbelievable really.

 

[blueinsa]

Calling people racists for voting out was, and still is, the biggest fillip for the leave camp, after the discussions about
who is the most intelligent, it's unbelievable really.

Cracker on the brexit thread this morning.

Us gammons are the best case for voter suppression apparently?

 

[Ancient Citizen]

All those first time young voters are saying different tho.....

You'll have to wait a bit...

 

[mcfc1632]

All those first time young voters are saying different tho.....

You keep changing the point you make

So your last post suggested the 14.5m that tend not to vite

Now you are limiting things to a much smaller group

 

[Ancient Citizen]

Cracker on the brexit thread this morning.

Us gammons are the best case for voter suppression apparently?

Death wishes, suppression, Russkies made 'em do it, anything, simply anything, rather than countenance the horrifying fact
that people may not actually believe what they believe.
I put it down to spoilt childhoods ;)

 

[mcfc1632]

Calling people racists for voting out was, and still is, the biggest fillip for the leave camp, after the discussions about
who is the most intelligent, it's unbelievable really.

One (or very few) trick ponies

They don't learn

 

[Ban-jani]

The rest of the world can see the con thats being pulled by the CONservatives ..... why can't the UK ?

It’s absolutely fucking scandalous