General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%

  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%

  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%
  • Total voters
    518
BobKowalski said:
The policies themselves are not unpopular. The public broadly agree with taking railways and utilities into public ownership. The public want more money spent on health and social care. Some policies like a four day week not so much because the public think the country will grind to a halt on Friday. It’s almost as if Saturday didn’t exist.

Labour’s problem pretty much begins and ends with Corbyn. Not enough people like or trust him.
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Same was said of Red Ed. Two on the trot is bad luck. Who's next.

Free anything is popular. More money spent on things you need, when you don't have to pay for it is popular. Better services are popular.

Any idiot can promise these things. It's not exactly rocket science is it.

So why is it these policies don't have Labour miles in the lead? Labour always promises more and yet has lost the last 3 general elections.

Thankfully enough people have enough common sense to realise there is no such thing as a free lunch, no matter how appealing the bribe. Labour's policies lack credibility with good reason. It is simply ludicrous to try to pretend that we can spend on the levels suggested and 95% of people won't have to pay a penny more. Or that we can borrow on the scales suggested with no adverse effect or risk to the economy. There are enough members of the public who are not stupid.
 
Chippy_boy said:
Same was said of Red Ed. Two on the trot is bad luck. Who's next.

Free anything is popular. More money spent on things you need, when you don't have to pay for it is popular. Better services are popular.

Any idiot can promise these things. It's not exactly rocket science is it.

So why is it these policies don't have Labour miles in the lead? Labour always promises more and yet has lost the last 3 general elections.

Thankfully enough people have enough common sense to realise there is no such thing as a free lunch, no matter how appealing the bribe. Labour's policies lack credibility with good reason. It is simply ludicrous to try to pretend that we can spend on the levels suggested and 95% of people won't have to pay a penny more. Or that we can borrow on the scales suggested with no adverse effect or risk to the economy. There are enough members of the public who are not stupid.
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Take away brexit and the general elections always go this way. Govt try to defend a poor performance and the opposition promise they will solve everything without much downside. The rich mainly vote Tory, the poor/public sector vote mainly Labour and those that count look at their bank balance and decide its not worth it as if it sounds to good to be true then it probably is.
 
I was at a Labour publicity do today that was gatecrashed by brexiteers. Let's just say they were good at shouting but not keen on having a reasoned argument.
 
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Vic said:
I was at a Labour publicity do today that was gatecrashed by brexiteers. Let's just say they were good at shouting but not keen on having a reasoned argument.
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Like the Republicans in the impeachment hearings they were only there to try and get their soundbite in the press.
 
Just a reminder that whoever is Tory leader will be labelled as ‘f*ckin useless’ and whoever is Labour leader will be labelled as ‘f*ckin useless’ and pretty much for any leader of any party, we live in social media times of hatred and absolutely no politician stands a chance of being liked.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Just a reminder that whoever is Tory leader will be labelled as ‘f*ckin useless’ and whoever is Labour leader will be labelled as ‘f*ckin useless’ and pretty much for any leader of any party, we live in social media times of hatred and absolutely no politician stands a chance of being liked.
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This is so true.
But it is justified at present...
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Just a reminder that whoever is Tory leader will be labelled as ‘f*ckin useless’ and whoever is Labour leader will be labelled as ‘f*ckin useless’ and pretty much for any leader of any party, we live in social media times of hatred and absolutely no politician stands a chance of being liked.
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Perhaps if they didn't lie and act like cunts they might be liked
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Just a reminder that whoever is Tory leader will be labelled as ‘f*ckin useless’ and whoever is Labour leader will be labelled as ‘f*ckin useless’ and pretty much for any leader of any party, we live in social media times of hatred and absolutely no politician stands a chance of being liked.
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People voted to leave.
If you did or I did or didnt is irrelevant.
People voted to leave why are all these bent bastards still talking about if they would or wouldnt deliver Brexit.
Just do what people voted for if not fuck it all off
 
goatersnipple said:
People voted to leave.
If you did or I did or didnt is irrelevant.
People voted to leave why are all these bent bastards still talking about if they would or wouldnt deliver Brexit.
Just do what people voted for if not fuck it all off
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By the way I voted to stay.
But that's irrelevant now people voted to leave.
So fucking leave.
 
Fox news and CNN are bastions of impartiality compared to Mail. My God, they don't want Corbyn to tax them, lol.
 
Cheesy said:
Posted this in the QT thread but probably better in here...

Labour stating that anybody earning under 80K a year won't be worse off through taxation is, quite simply, bullshit.

I earn circa 25K a year and will be thousands of pounds worse off under a Labour Government. Some example figures of how Labour's plans may affect a small Limited Company director...


Currently, on 20K profit you would pay £3800 in CT. Paying yourself 25K in wages & dividends you would pay £787 in income tax. A total of £4587.

Under Labour, on 20K profit you would pay £4200 in CT. Paying yourself 25K in wages & dividends you would pay £2500 in income tax. A total of £6700.

I suppose some people might ask why I should get 'tax breaks' on dividend payments when your 'normal' employee pays standard rate on anything over the threshold but for those people I'd like them to consider that as a Director of my own Ltd Company I get no annual leave entitlement, no holiday pay, no sick pay, no parenting pay, no minimum wage and no job security.

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Note - I've edited this as of course, I wouldn't be able to pay myself 12.5K in dividends if I'd only made a profit of 10K. I originally used the 10K figure as it was easier to do the maths :)
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Ahhhh the old 'dividend' trick..... for those that aren't aware this is where the shareholders of a business award themselves a dividend every few months rather than declare it as wages.Thus avoiding having to pay income tax and Class 2 NIC's .....
 
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