General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%

  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%

  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%
  • Total voters
    518
Chippy_boy said:
If they condemned the Tories for persistent, repeated and institutionalised racism, yes of course I would. But they haven't because it's not there.

And before your knee-jerk attempted cover up kicks in, yes I am aware of allegations of islamophobia but it's nothing like on the same scale is it. And the acid test is that Islamic groups are not coming out en masse condemning the Tories. Jews are re Labour.

How you can even begin to try to defend this is frankly astonishing. What depths will you lot stoop to???
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Or the acid test is that you don't know about Islamic groups condemning the Tories...

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2019/may/28/watchdog-urged-to-launch-inquiry-into-tory-islamophobia
 
blueparrot said:
I'm sure they could find someone to say that, I'm just as sure they would always have been able to find somebody to say that. It isn't evidence that there are any more stuoid peolple than there have ever been. One of my children has just left university the other just started they and all their friends are well aware of what's going on and what's at stake.
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gordondaviesmoustache said:
I feel, for whatever reason, we’ve made our choice and we need to stick by it and deal with the consequences - and rebuild as a nation if we need to.

We’ve done it plenty of times before. We are a remarkable nation. I think, long term, assuming the human race survives, we’ll be fine as a country. Too much going for it. We’re too culturally prominent to fade away to irrelevance.

Edit , possibly wrong thread tbf. Apologies, but can’t be arsed moving it.
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The rebuilds werent self inflicted before. The blame for many still lingers amongst those that have never experienced them, can you imagine it ever-present internally. Surely we can treat our society to be mature enough to re-assess and either confirm or alter the decision based on much much mord clarity available and the detailed outcome, by being democratic and asking again.
 
bluethrunthru said:
I find it disgusting how he can politicise his own religion and seek to weaponise it to scare his fellow Jews disgusting. He can support the Tories - thats his right - but to use his religion as Project Fear to get his own fellow Jews to vote the way he wants them to is a disgrace. The idea that Jews are under threat solely from Labour is a fucking joke however from a Tory supporter its any straw you can clutch to brainwash people I suppose.
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Dearie me, the most one eyed bullshit yet, the Labour party is being investigated by the ECHR, I wonder why.
There is a comprehensive list some pages back that lists Corbyn's stance, he's a cancer in Labour, and the biggest reason,
together with IRA Johnny, that they are where they are.
 
This isn’t pretty scathing-

Jeremy Corbyn’s handling of antisemitism allegations makes him “unfit for high office”, the Chief Rabbi has said while warning that the “very soul of our nation is at stake” in next month’s general election.

In an unprecedented intervention into politics, which he describes as “amongst the most painful moments” of his career, Ephraim Mirvis says that “a new poison” has taken hold in Labour “sanctioned from the very top”.

In an article for The Times today, the Chief Rabbi says that the Labour leader’s claim to have dealt with all allegations of antisemitism is “a mendacious fiction” and the way that the party has handled the claims is “incompatible with the British values of which we are so proud”.

Labour, he says, can no longer claim to be the party of diversity, equality and anti-racism. Its record on antisemitism in opposition, he says, left him asking: “What should we expect of them in government?”
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The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
If everyone was asked to pay 20% of what they’ve got to get rid of the national debt (assuming debt is a bad thing, which is an entirely different argument), I’d happily do it. I’d rather be a bit poorer and have a society worth living in, where we look after the old, the young, the sick and those less fortunate than ourselves. Where aspiration is a real word not just something bandied about by politicians, where your life expectancy was not mapped out according to which 10% band of the population you were fortunate or unfortunate enough to be born into. Over 4 million kids living in poverty and it’s 2019. In a class of 30 that’s 10 of them. Of course, in some classes there aren’t anything like 30 kids and not one of them lives in poverty. They’d be the ones who’re ‘better’ than the rest of us because they’re our rulers. In others classrooms, it’s not quite the same.
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What you want is retribution and revenge on the better off, you aren't interested in solving poverty otherwise you'd only talk of policies that could solve poverty. Where the money came from wouldn't matter although for some reason Labour wants to solve poverty but talks 99% of the time about anything but how it would do just that.

All the talk is of taxing and spending but there isn't anything on how this will actually help people to be richer. Will you increase benefits? What will you do about the subsequent rabid inflation?

What will you do to protect peoples mortgages from interest rates because of this inflation? What will Labour do to protect from the predicted collapse in the £? How will Labour protect jobs put at risk by increased regulation, costs, tax?

The answers to these questions could gravely affect virtually every household in the country and they would be inflicted as a direct result of a Labour government.

Where are the answers? Or should I just assume I will be paying nothing and everything will be fine....? Lol
 
Another 366,000 registered to vote yesterday, 260k of which were under 34. That's 3.2 million in total now since the election was announced. By the end of today it'll be double the number that registered two years ago.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Yes I am. Anyone who repeats it does so for their own political reasons. I support Labour for political reasons. People who condemn one party or support another is for their own political reasons. Its politics. Is it that hard to understand?
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You're just spectacularly wrong here. There's various Jews who are life-long Labour supporters who are openly expressing their fears over this Labour government.
 
jay_mcfc said:
Another 366,000 registered to vote yesterday, 260k of which were under 34. That's 3.2 million in total now since the election was announced. By the end of today it'll be double the number that registered two years ago.
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Chippy_boy said:
Well done Vic, well done. We knew we could rely on you for a bit of deflection when tough questions get asked of Labour. Shame it doesn't seem to be working when you're knocking on those doors though.
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I've often wondered about this canvassing lark, how many 'Fuck off's' do you get, as a percentage?
 
joe123 said:
I believe there was another campaigner in their 70s attacked as well. Pleasant bunch these anti-Labour hardliners.
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What facts do you have that it was even politically motivated? Also plenty of people get a slap even though they were the agitator. Let's have the facts please before jumping to conclusions.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The slave trade certainly gave us a massive leg-up as a nation leading up to (and possibly leading to) industrialisation. It definitely cemented our dominance of the waves three hundred or so years ago. We benefitted massively as a nation from the slave trade.
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A discussion about Labour party anti-semitism morphing into one about slavery is perhaps not surprising given the Jewish race were one of its principal victims. Yet, inevitably, its prevalence in the rest of the world throughout recorded history is ignored in the enthusiasm for condemnation of our own country's crimes.
 
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