General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%

  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%

  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%
  • Total voters
    518
Ban-jani said:
How many complaints are there currently in the party?

Corbyn is a fucking disgrace that’s why mate. 50% of British Jews are considering leaving the country if he becomes Prime Ministers and 86% think he’s antisemitic.

Is that not a problem to you?
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Here we go again!! I've had enough! Time to call out the liars and bullshitters...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45077647

Corbyn has already apologised to the Jewish community before. How many times must he continue to do so? He has already stated the Labour Party has QUADRUPLED their lawyers in getting to the problem!

This is just a roundabout way to attack Corbyn's more socialist views on giving British people more of a chance to have more Human Rights and worth and thus why he's not being forced to 'apologise' again so easily. No matter what position he takes on anything, the Cons and the billionaires MSM megaphone still attack him.

It's a nonsense being perpetuated to the gullible by the rich or Cons trying to bypass subjects like this...



Like O'Brien said, maybe some people "like being lied to".
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
It feels like the nation made a collective shrug over their reveal of the 451 page document.

If their trump card isn't persuading voters...
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That's because it's a position paper that specifies both sides starting points for a trade deal. Labour didn't mention the bits that blew their arguments to pieces.
 
bluethrunthru said:
thats like saying you can't be a racist as some people you work with and the guy who cuts your hair are black ffs........if Labour are racist then why does the Jewish Labour Movement exist - thats the level or your argument
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No, no no @bluethrunthru!

I recognise this as it was said to me as a young boy by a neighbour who I thought was a family friend: "You're alright mate, it's the others I don't like!"!

Your Patels and Javids are 'in' within the Con circle, so they feel privileged and not willing to call out Johnson with his 'colourful' language if it loses them that status.
 
Bigga said:
No, no no @bluethrunthru!

I recognise this as it was said to me as a young boy by a neighbour who I thought was a family friend: "You're alright mate, it's the others I don't like!"!

Your Patels and Javids are 'in' within the Con circle, so they feel privileged and not willing to call out Johnson with his 'colourful' language if it loses them that status.
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Yep, better off listening to Warsi.
 
Bigga said:
Here we go again!! I've had enough! Time to call out the liars and bullshitters...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45077647

Corbyn has already apologised to the Jewish community before. How many times must he continue to do so? He has already stated the Labour Party has QUADRUPLED their lawyers in getting to the problem!

This is just a roundabout way to attack Corbyn's more socialist views on giving British people more of a chance to have more Human Rights and worth and thus why he's not being forced to 'apologise' again so easily. No matter what position he takes on anything, the Cons and the billionaires MSM megaphone still attack him.

It's a nonsense being perpetuated to the gullible by the rich or Cons trying to bypass subjects like this...



Like O'Brien said, maybe some people "like being lied to".
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O'Brien is a Remainiac who in this election will clearly do anything to trash the Tories.
 
Bigga said:
Here we go again!! I've had enough! Time to call out the liars and bullshitters...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-45077647

Corbyn has already apologised to the Jewish community before. How many times must he continue to do so? He has already stated the Labour Party has QUADRUPLED their lawyers in getting to the problem!

This is just a roundabout way to attack Corbyn's more socialist views on giving British people more of a chance to have more Human Rights and worth and thus why he's not being forced to 'apologise' again so easily. No matter what position he takes on anything, the Cons and the billionaires MSM megaphone still attack him.

It's a nonsense being perpetuated to the gullible by the rich or Cons trying to bypass subjects like this...



Like O'Brien said, maybe some people "like being lied to".
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I don’t even know where to begin with this post, it’s awful.

Who’s a fucking liar and bullshitter?

It seems that certain types of racism don’t matter to people like you.

You seem to know more than the people dealing with the fucking racism complaints in the party, Jewish Labour members, Jewish Labour MPs. The Chief Rabbi in the UK and the EHRC, who have deemed the issue strong enough to investigate, the only party that has been other than the BNP.

Did you watch the panorama episode? Have you spoken to Jewish people and asked how they feel?

You’ve joined the cult mate, well done.
 
Bigga said:
No, no no @bluethrunthru!

I recognise this as it was said to me as a young boy by a neighbour who I thought was a family friend: "You're alright mate, it's the others I don't like!"!

Your Patels and Javids are 'in' within the Con circle, so they feel privileged and not willing to call out Johnson with his 'colourful' language if it loses them that status.
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Like when Chelsea fans pushed that black guy off the Paris Metro? I saw one interviewed the next day on his way home and he was asked about....think it might have been Zuma - as he too was black. His answer ?

Yeah mate but Kurt is fine he may be an nword but he is our nword. ( of course the bleep machine worked overtime on that bulletin )
 
Ban-jani said:
I don’t even know where to begin with this post, it’s awful.

Who’s a fucking liar and bullshitter?

It seems that certain types of racism don’t matter to people like you.

You seem to know more than the people dealing with the fucking racism complaints in the party, Jewish Labour members, Jewish Labour MPs. The Chief Rabbi in the UK and the EHRC, who have deemed the issue strong enough to investigate, the only party that has been other than the BNP.

Did you watch the panorama episode? Have you spoken to Jewish people and asked how they feel?

You’ve joined the cult mate, well done.
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So, if Corbyn says (as I do, in fact) that he ABHORS all types of racism, then that's not enough?!! I must be racist too, by that definition!

Again, you're ANOTHER one that refuses to note that Corbyn HAS apologised before, more than once!! You just don't want to hear it as it doesn't fit your "not fit" narrative!

You're a patsy. You're spoon fed bullshit by the Tories and love the taste!

He's no more AS than I am.
 
Ban-jani said:
When their own members/politicians are saying there’s a problem I believe them but I’m uncomfortable with the word Islamophobia. Do they mean they hate Muslims? If so that’s wrong and very wrong.

I haven’t seen the stats with the Tories though, to fully understand the extent to which it’s in the party.

What I do know is how bad antisemitism is in Labour and when literally half of British Jews are that scared they might leave the country, that’s not just alarm bells, that’s a deafening siren that’s knocked me off my feet.

This is Britain for fuck sake, not 1930’s Germany.
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You're last line is spot on....as for the rest of it have a word with yourself
 
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Ban-jani said:
I don’t even know where to begin with this post, it’s awful.

Who’s a fucking liar and bullshitter?

It seems that certain types of racism don’t matter to people like you.

You seem to know more than the people dealing with the fucking racism complaints in the party, Jewish Labour members, Jewish Labour MPs. The Chief Rabbi in the UK and the EHRC, who have deemed the issue strong enough to investigate, the only party that has been other than the BNP.

Did you watch the panorama episode? Have you spoken to Jewish people and asked how they feel?

You’ve joined the cult mate, well done.
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He's apologised enough times, that should be enough!

End of story, end of matter, job done! The lawyers are on the case, just like Shami Chakrabarti once did, who declared publicly, that the Labour Party does not have a problem with anti-semitism, and was rewarded with a peerage.

Panorama is just another example of the right-wing media conspiracy to use fake antisemitism claims to discredit Corbyn and Labour! And how credible are the ECHR, really?
 
inchy14 said:
If you book an appointment and then don't turn up without at least notifying them you should be charged imo, it's hard enough getting one anyway with time wasters clogging the system up further.
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It would cost too much money setting that up and it would just add to some poor fuckers workload to run it and work out who is exempt because they are on benefits etc,there is far too much admin in the NHS,that is part of the problem
 
Ban-jani said:
What I do know is how bad antisemitism is in Labour and when literally half of British Jews are that scared they might leave the country,
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Absolutely serious questions -

1/ how do you know how bad it is? What evidence has given you that impression other than that you will have read in the Mail, Telegraph etc? Are you Jewish or do you have many Jewish friends? Are you and they all Labour Party members?
2/ Who reports that half of British Jews would leave? Again the sources? That would be about 1% of the population - 6.6m people seriously going to leave? Where will they go? Israel? Can Israel cope with that number of immigrants "overnight"? Bear in mind post Brexit their freedom of movement in the EU finishes. Getting into the States and now famously places like Australia if you don't score the points is a no-no.

Bot yanking your chain fella I have observed your concern and would be interested to know what empirical evidence you base you dearly held views on?
 
Bigga said:
...It's a nonsense being perpetuated to the gullible by the rich or Cons trying to bypass subjects like this...Like O'Brien said, maybe some people "like being lied to".
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Maybe they just prefer some liars to others or the liars they like to the ones they don't or the ones they know to the ones they don't. Maybe some are so gullible they think only one side is lying or that only the rich perpetuate nonsense or that Labour never tries to bypass subjects they don't like with fabricated distractions. Maybe most people don't like being lied to at all but still choose to vote for the lesser evil.
Like O'Brien didn't say - what if this turns out to be a downright calumny by Corbyn? Would you change your mind about him? Somehow I don't think you would no matter what he's done. Blind hatred poisons everything including the capacity for critical thinking.
 
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