General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%

  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%

  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%
  • Total voters
    518
bluethrunthru said:
Absolutely serious questions -

1/ how do you know how bad it is? What evidence has given you that impression other than that you will have read in the Mail, Telegraph etc? Are you Jewish or do you have many Jewish friends? Are you and they all Labour Party members?
2/ Who reports that half of British Jews would leave? Again the sources? That would be about 1% of the population - 6.6m people seriously going to leave? Where will they go? Israel? Can Israel cope with that number of immigrants "overnight"? Bear in mind post Brexit their freedom of movement in the EU finishes. Getting into the States and now famously places like Australia if you don't score the points is a no-no.

Bot yanking your chain fella I have observed your concern and would be interested to know what empirical evidence you base you dearly held views on?
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1) The JC, JN and JT are where I investigated the claims. First heard about it on Sky News, as do many people in the country.
Yes on my mother's side.
I'm not a member but know some who are and they have divulged their own experiences with me.

2) The three main jewish news outlets have joined together condemning the issue infesting Labour. Not to mention the reports coming from Jewish Labour MP's and Jewish Labour members who were the ones who first raised the issue. It doesn't invalidate nor negate the issue just because Labour opponents have become aware of the story and run with it.
Why did you immediately assume that the Jewish population would immediately migrate to "Israel"?
 
blueeeee said:
“Working class men are feckless, hopeless and likely to be drunk”
children raised by single mothers are “ill raised, aggressive, ignorant & illegitimate”
Just a few of today’s unearthed quotes from Boris!
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Don't forget all his racist stuff and having to say sorry this week for islamophobia in the tory party,which the tory boys on here are ignoring
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
1) The JC, JN and JT are where I investigated the claims. First heard about it on Sky News, as do many people in the country.
Yes on my mother's side.
I'm not but some are and they have divulged their own experiences with me.

2) The three main jewish news outlets have joined together condemning the issue infesting Labour. Not to mention the reports coming from Jewish Labour MP's and Jewish Labour members who were the ones who first raised the issue. It doesn't invalidate nor negate the issue just because Labour opponents have become aware of the story and run with it.
Why did you immediately assume that the Jewish population would immediately migrate to "Israel"?
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Not interested in your reply as the question was not put to you - goodbye
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
1) The JC, JN and JT are where I investigated the claims. First heard about it on Sky News, as do many people in the country.
Yes on my mother's side.
I'm not a member but know some who are and they have divulged their own experiences with me.

2) The three main jewish news outlets have joined together condemning the issue infesting Labour. Not to mention the reports coming from Jewish Labour MP's and Jewish Labour members who were the ones who first raised the issue. It doesn't invalidate nor negate the issue just because Labour opponents have become aware of the story and run with it.
Why did you immediately assume that the Jewish population would immediately migrate to "Israel"?
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Would you consider Haaretz as a reliable Jewish news outlet ?
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-the-contract-on-corbyn-1.8192769
 
bluethrunthru said:
Not interested in your reply as the question was not put to you - goodbye
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Ahh because an actual person with Jewish heritage answering the exact points you put in your question... upsets you?

You really don't like Jews, do you.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Ahh because an actual person with Jewish heritage answering the exact points you put in your question... upsets you?

You really don't like Jews, do you.
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No. Because a person who I didn't ask a question of buts in and tries to answer it. Not. Interested. If you struggle with either of those two words there are on line dictionaries you can consult.
 
bluethrunthru said:
No. Because a person who I didn't ask a question of buts in and tries to answer it. Not. Interested. If you struggle with either of those two words there are on line dictionaries you can consult.
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But I was giving you a helpful answer to your question, one that was loaded for a jewish person to answer.

Not knowing Ban-Jani's jewish connections, if any, and seeing the opportunity, I chose to answer. Are the answers not to your liking? Are they not sufficient in answering your query about the legitimacy jewish people have of their concerns about the issue?
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
But I was giving you a helpful answer to your question, one that was loaded for a jewish person to answer.

Not knowing Ban-Jani's jewish connections, if any, and seeing the opportunity, I chose to answer. Are the answers not to your liking? Are they not sufficient in answering your query about the legitimacy jewish people have of their concerns about the issue?
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Fuck me - NOT INTERESTED - get it?????? If I see a doctor as I ask his opinion and prognosis - if I want a 2nd opinion I ask for it !!!!! Did I ask you for a 2nd opinion???? No.
 
bluethrunthru said:
Fuck me - NOT INTERESTED - get it?????? If I see a doctor as I ask his opinion and prognosis - if I want a 2nd opinion I ask for it !!!!! Did I ask you for a 2nd opinion???? No.
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It's a forum, not a doctor's office, and I am permitted to answer any question I wish. Are you still dissatisfied?

I could give more clarification. I personally identify as "saxon" over jewish given the choice, but cannot deny my heritage, through my mother's side, her mother and grandmother. I've never been a practicing jew but some family members have. I consider my leanings more atuned to Germanic Paganism, Odin, Thor, that kind of thing.

There now, now we can be friends again.
 
George Hannah said:
Have you ever considered that not rating Corbyn doesn't automatically make posters on here Tory boys ?
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I know who is who,none of you acknowleged boris saying sorry for islamophobia,doesn't suit the narrative does it,rather shout about corbyn and not about the tories being racist,my point is it's both sides so lets not pretend otherwise
 
karen7 said:
I know who is who,none of you acknowleged boris saying sorry for islamophobia,doesn't suit the narrative does it,rather shout about corbyn and not about the tories being racist,my point is it's both sides so lets not pretend otherwise
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In fairness, we've not had a chance.

Boris saying sorry for islamophobia doesn't address the issue within the party itself, but at least it shows public acknowledgment so now Boris is on notice to see if the accusations get worse or improve. What I suspect people find odd is that there are those saying "don't vote Boris, he's an islamophobe" but in the same breath say "Vote Corbyn", who is considered by some to be still heavily associated with the antisemitism plaguing his party.

Wouldn't it make more sense not to promote either on here?
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
It's a forum, not a doctor's office, and I am permitted to answer any question I wish. Are you still dissatisfied?

I could give more clarification. I personally identify as "saxon" over jewish given the choice, but cannot deny my heritage, through my mother's side, her mother and grandmother. I've never been a practicing jew but some family members have. I consider my leanings more atuned to Germanic Paganism, Odin, Thor, that kind of thing.

There now, now we can be friends again.
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My specific interest is in Ban Jani's views and how they were formed and my hope is that he will respond so I can understand what HE thinks and why. Fine for you to respond to a question but when specifically asked to but out because my only interest is in his views then you could be courteous and do so. I see others may have responded and asked you questions into the points you have raised. I'd respectfully suggest you conduct your discourse with them as I have made my view in your responses very clear.
 
bluethrunthru said:
My specific interest is in Ban Jani's views and how they were formed and my hope is that he will respond so I can understand what HE thinks and why. Fine for you to respond to a question but when specifically asked to but out because my only interest is in his views then you could be courteous and do so. I see others may have responded and asked you questions into the points you have raised. I'd respectfully suggest you conduct your discourse with them as I have made my view in your responses very clear.
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That's better, much more courteous.

Since you've made it quite clear you aren't interested in my perspective on your question, I'll not "interfere".

Has Ban-Jani responded by the way?
 
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