General Election - December 12th, 2019

Who will you vote for in the 2019 General Election?

  • Conservative

    Votes: 160 30.9%

  • Labour

    Votes: 230 44.4%

  • Liberal Democrats

    Votes: 59 11.4%

  • Green Party

    Votes: 13 2.5%

  • Brexit Party

    Votes: 28 5.4%

  • Plaid Cymru/SNP

    Votes: 7 1.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 21 4.1%
  • Total voters
    518
Bigga said:
No, you don't, but you'd do well to be versed all ALL the issues surrounding the accusation.

You haven't even bothered looking at the posted articles.

I know, because your rant wouldn't be as vociferous, but more thoughtful.
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Well I’m very fucking sorry to be more focused on racism in a major political party now, than one 20/30/40 years ago.

It’s not a rant - you’re appeasing racism to push through a political agenda - you need to realise yourself because in the future you’ll no doubt be ashamed.
 
Ban-jani said:
He doesn’t know that I’m not Jewish, that’s the worrying thing.
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Or cares.

For them it's more about how the issue is tarnishing the image of Labour with the public. Not the effect this is having on Jews in the country, that's secondary or as others on here have claimed "a right-wing murdoch press conspiracy".
 
Saddleworth2 said:
Where did I suggest that my view should be yours?
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Where did I suggest that my view invalidates yours?

You gave your view on the matter, I then gave mine for comparison. Put it this way, once Corbyn, McDonnell and Momentum are no longer associated with the Labour Party, and the new regime takes great steps in expunging all anti-semitic sentiment from within the ranks of the party, they will regain my support.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Where did I suggest that my view invalidates yours?

You gave your view on the matter, I then gave mine for comparison. Put it this way, once Corbyn, McDonnell and Momentum are no longer associated with the Labour Party, and the new regime takes great steps in expunging all anti-semitic sentiment from within the ranks of the party, they will regain my support.
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Genuine question - do you expect that to happen under the next leader. Let’s assume Labour lose and Corbyn resigns. If Long-Bailey takes over, is she going to denounce the Dear Leader? If Starmer takes over there maybe more of a chance but I don’t know which one(if either) are more likely to take over
 
State Aid is back baby. Alas not for NI as that is ruled out under the WA. Or for any U.K. businesses that intersect with NI. Also ‘Buy British’ is back...again. Might be an issue for U.K. firms tendering for overseas Govt contracts. Good old protectionist stuff. Old school Labour lefties will be cheering :)

‘Johnson to introduce
— new state aid regime so govt can intervene to protect jobs when an industry is in trouble
— changing public procurement policy so it promotes the local economy
— scrap tampon tax
— buy British rule for public bodies’ @buzzfeed
 
BobKowalski said:
State Aid is back baby. Alas not for NI as that is ruled out under the WA. Or for any U.K. businesses that intersect with NI. Also ‘Buy British’ is back...again. Might be an issue for U.K. firms tendering for overseas Govt contracts. Good old protectionist stuff. Old school Labour lefties will be cheering :)

‘Johnson to introduce
— new state aid regime so govt can intervene to protect jobs when an industry is in trouble
— changing public procurement policy so it promotes the local economy
— scrap tampon tax
— buy British rule for public bodies’ @buzzfeed
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A good thing eh Bob. So we can provide incentives for businesses to invest - and to stay invested - in the UK after we've left the EU. Or would you prefer we just watch factories close?
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
His mannerisms, his support for anti-LGBT/antisemitic groups Hamas and Hezbollah, his past support for the IRA, his handling and apparent disregard for the antisemitism issue aside from scripted generic "racism is bad" soundbites; do you pay ANY attention to critcism of Corbyn or do you just put the see-no-evil blinkers on?

So i'll ask you again; do you support Corbyn when he supports these groups?
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Mannerisms?? That's pathetic, even for you!!

As for groups like Hamas and Hezbollah(pro-Palestine), supporting their right for a state and existence doesn't mean 'anti-Semitic' as you seem to spout and he's stated using the word 'friends' was wrong, but he was trying promote peace talks around the table. I'm PRO-Black, so am I ANTI-White if I want to move rights forward for a minority??
Your IRA point is similar to your Hamas issue:
Corbyn responded by saying "dialogue with all parties remains essential if the peace process is to continue". ... In July 1998, Corbyn endorsed the Good Friday Agreement by voting for the Northern Ireland Bill saying: "We look forward to peace, hope and reconciliation in Ireland in the future"
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We've gone through your anti-Semitism POV and it's been debunked if you care to read.

No blinkers on here.

If you won't read and you won't digest and understand how you're being played, then there's no point in further discussion as the issue is not really anything but a dislike of Corbyn as noted by the very thing you had to say about him.

I think we've exhausted our 'discussions'.

We've had years and years of austerity of which you more under BloJo and co more of.

At least I know what's happening and I'm not being spoon fed bullshit.
 
Mëtal Bikër said:
Or cares.

For them it's more about how the issue is tarnishing the image of Labour with the public. Not the effect this is having on Jews in the country, that's secondary or as others on here have claimed "a right-wing murdoch press conspiracy".
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Marginalising Jews is just a byproduct for them that doesn’t really matter.

Considering he’s a part of an ethnic group that has also been marginalised so much in the past, it makes it even more shocking.
 
Chippy_boy said:
What's the big deal keep asking???

I'll accuse him of it if you like. It's obvious to anyone without "Labour" tattoo'd on their forehead, that he is. I mean seriously, he's the bloody leader of the opposition and he goes around supporting a painting like this???

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Not to mention being lethargic, or even obstructive of efforts to stamp it out; his "friends' with Hamas and Hezbollah etc.

WTF do you think he says in private when this is what he says and does in public??? I mean seriously, you'd have to need your lumps feeling to think there's nothing dodgy going on. Why on earth do you think *Labour-supporting* Jews are so upset with him???
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Sorry, I missed the comments that supported anti-Semitism in this image.

Quotes please.
 
Ban-jani said:
Well I’m very fucking sorry to be more focused on racism in a major political party now, than one 20/30/40 years ago.

It’s not a rant - you’re appeasing racism to push through a political agenda - you need to realise yourself because in the future you’ll no doubt be ashamed.
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Glad you've admitted to not reading the articles given to you.

It's not me unwilling to have an open view before casting an opinion.

I'm not spoon fed. You admit you read a lot of papers in your lunchtime, maybe change the medium?

Would moving images help you think a bit more critically...?

 
Homar said:
This country has a moral obligation to (attempt to) put right its historic injustices.
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Sorry but that is bollocks, these demos achieve nothing and just alienate people. Palestine and Israel has nothing to do with our NHS,Climate Change ect it needs to stay away from Labour it causes more harm than good.
 
Scottyboi said:
Sorry but that is bollocks, these demos achieve nothing and just alienate people. Palestine and Israel has nothing to do with our NHS,Climate Change ect it needs to stay away from Labour it causes more harm than good.
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So to hell with the mess that we cause and have caused? If this is your view then at least you're honest about it I guess.
Parliament makes decisions that affect the wider world. Issues of foreign policy may not hold much importance with yourself, but it holds great importance with other people.
 
Bigga said:
Glad you've admitted to not reading the articles given to you.

It's not me unwilling to have an open view before casting an opinion.

I'm not spoon fed. You admit you read a lot of papers in your lunchtime, maybe change the medium?

Would moving images help you think a bit more critically...?

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So you have an open mind? That's good to hear. So what is your neutral assessment of the open letter from the Board of Deputies of British Jews:

"Hizbollah commits terrorist atrocities against Jews, but Corbyn calls them his friends and attends pro-Hizbollah rallies in London… Raed Salah says Jews kill Christian children to drink their blood. Corbyn opposes his extradition and invites him for tea at the House of Commons'. They went on: 'These are not the only cases. He is repeatedly found alongside people with blatantly anti-Semitic views but claims never to hear or read them."

Are we to assume they are simply mistaken, or have some vendetta against him for completely unrelated reasons? What is your suggested explanation for Jewish bodies like this - and they are far from the only ones, aren't they - consistently having these views of Corbyn?

Surely someone with an open mind, can see there is a bit of an issue here?
 
Real life here,millions of women including myself can't get HRT patches because the government have not paid the drug companies,we are all about to be plunged back into the menopause,something to do with brexit,for those who denied that medications would not be affected,it's a disgrace
 
Bigga said:
Glad you've admitted to not reading the articles given to you.

It's not me unwilling to have an open view before casting an opinion.

I'm not spoon fed. You admit you read a lot of papers in your lunchtime, maybe change the medium?

Would moving images help you think a bit more critically...?

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And you have persistently refused to confirm if you’ve watched the panorama documentary.

It’s hilarious you’re using JOB for your argument, one of the most critical on the radio of Labour’s antisemitism crisis.

I can’t watch the video as I’m work.

Look mate, I’m getting the impression that because you’ve been so anti-racist on the Trump thread, and yet are here defending it in the Labour Party, that you’re not serious about it, or are only serious when it affects you.

I think you’re a total you know what and all the respect I’ve built up for you as a poster in the Trump thread, has disappeared.

86% of Jewish Brits aren’t wrong and you fucking know it.
 
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