Newcastle (a) post-match thread

Having had half a day to ruminate on the game, it feels very typical of our labored performances this season.

Last season, Pep mentioned repeatedly how hard it was to try to win back to back Premier Leagues, because the English game is a 10 month slog against teams of all stripes, under weather of all stripes, with injuries and upsets constantly being thrown up into the mix. We did it. Barely, but we went on a ridiculous run to do it by 1 point against a team that only lost ONE GAME ALL SEASON...and that was against us, by 11 millimeters!

This season, with only one addition in the middle of the park, in one of the most important positions in the Pep scheme, was always going to be difficult, but when players started getting niggles, and two major knee injuries (to our best defender and one of the most impactful wingers in world football) occurred, it was clear that the planets were aligning against us...as our main rival got stronger and escaped any serious injuries.

I think most neutral observers can see that Liverpool are winning games they shouldn’t, while City are drawing games they should win and even throwing up losses to teams that seemed unthinkable over the last two seasons.

City players look tired. Bored? Unenthused? Stuck in a rut?

Is the problem that now the players have learned Pep’s system, there is nothing new to help get them over humps? No lucky breaks coming their way? One niggle too many? I don’t know for certain, but it looks like we need something new, some energy from somewhere, some impetus from somewhere that appears to not being in the horizon.

From here, for me, it is about keeping it all together, making sure that fissures don’t appear or get magnified out of control, and that City take care of the business they need to do this January and Summer.

“The Project” has been, to a large degree, been completed, and from here it needs to be sustainable. To be sustainable against opponents who themselves are unwilling to standstill, are improving, and are injecting energy and vigor into their game as we appear to be unwinding, takes money and a very detailed, future-based, approach to the improvements necessary.

In ice hockey, there is a saying that the player is good not because he is always where the puck is, but where the puck is going. Likewise, we need to leap over where the puck is and quickly skate towards where the puck is going.You can call Klopp’s approach to football anything you want, but when it blunts the supposed most beautiful football in the world, and beats it regularly, then HE had already skated to where the puck was going to be in 2018/19, but missed it by a second. However, by this season, that team and squad was absolutely where the puck was heading, and we were still skating around celebrating being “Fourmidable!”

This season is now about Top 3, picking up some domestic silverware, and WINNING THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE. If we don’t win the CL this season, possibly next, I honestly think we can write it off for another few years as the squad gets rebuilt around the core of what we have and the younger players coming through.

Hard to believe all of that flows from a 2-2 draw away at a place where we lost last season and still won the League, but it is simply the cherry on the icing on a cake that pales in comparison to what we have been feasting on for the last few years. We have been spoiled, but have come to like being spoiled, which means it feels a little jarring to be told “no more cake!”

This, too, shall pass, and shouldn’t even last too long, but it will be painful to watch Liverpool pick up where we left off, Spurs bouncing back under Mourinho, and maybe even Chelsea become a threat yet again under Lampard’s kids this season. It’s not the end of the world, only the ending of an era of 10 years of unbelievable growth.

From here, City as a club (and team) needs to mature into what “The Project” was supposed to become. The recent investment from America appears to indicate the future is a strong one, but business takes place in the boardroom, while the football, which pays for it all, has to be done on the field. Let’s hope that is where the focus is kept, and where the time, effort and money is now spent to reinvigorate this squad.

The Future is Blue.
I too have been pondering this today, I recorded the match this morning, got to watch it way after seeing the result. There was no question we should have won it by miles, we had so many chances on goal but once again we squandered them. To a certain point I'm almost glad the pressure is off, our defence is so bad and whilst I will always love Aguero he too has not been scoring as he should.
I have faith in Jesus and would like to see him given the time as first team choice to improve, as with Foden and Garcia, let the team mature. I've supported City way too long for some instant gratification to give a fuck about win, win win.
 
Having had half a day to ruminate on the game, it feels very typical of our labored performances this season.

Last season, Pep mentioned repeatedly how hard it was to try to win back to back Premier Leagues, because the English game is a 10 month slog against teams of all stripes, under weather of all stripes, with injuries and upsets constantly being thrown up into the mix. We did it. Barely, but we went on a ridiculous run to do it by 1 point against a team that only lost ONE GAME ALL SEASON...and that was against us, by 11 millimeters!

This season, with only one addition in the middle of the park, in one of the most important positions in the Pep scheme, was always going to be difficult, but when players started getting niggles, and two major knee injuries (to our best defender and one of the most impactful wingers in world football) occurred, it was clear that the planets were aligning against us...as our main rival got stronger and escaped any serious injuries.

I think most neutral observers can see that Liverpool are winning games they shouldn’t, while City are drawing games they should win and even throwing up losses to teams that seemed unthinkable over the last two seasons.

City players look tired. Bored? Unenthused? Stuck in a rut?

Is the problem that now the players have learned Pep’s system, there is nothing new to help get them over humps? No lucky breaks coming their way? One niggle too many? I don’t know for certain, but it looks like we need something new, some energy from somewhere, some impetus from somewhere that appears to not being in the horizon.

From here, for me, it is about keeping it all together, making sure that fissures don’t appear or get magnified out of control, and that City take care of the business they need to do this January and Summer.

“The Project” has been, to a large degree, been completed, and from here it needs to be sustainable. To be sustainable against opponents who themselves are unwilling to standstill, are improving, and are injecting energy and vigor into their game as we appear to be unwinding, takes money and a very detailed, future-based, approach to the improvements necessary.

In ice hockey, there is a saying that the player is good not because he is always where the puck is, but where the puck is going. Likewise, we need to leap over where the puck is and quickly skate towards where the puck is going.You can call Klopp’s approach to football anything you want, but when it blunts the supposed most beautiful football in the world, and beats it regularly, then HE had already skated to where the puck was going to be in 2018/19, but missed it by a second. However, by this season, that team and squad was absolutely where the puck was heading, and we were still skating around celebrating being “Fourmidable!”

This season is now about Top 3, picking up some domestic silverware, and WINNING THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE. If we don’t win the CL this season, possibly next, I honestly think we can write it off for another few years as the squad gets rebuilt around the core of what we have and the younger players coming through.

Hard to believe all of that flows from a 2-2 draw away at a place where we lost last season and still won the League, but it is simply the cherry on the icing on a cake that pales in comparison to what we have been feasting on for the last few years. We have been spoiled, but have come to like being spoiled, which means it feels a little jarring to be told “no more cake!”

This, too, shall pass, and shouldn’t even last too long, but it will be painful to watch Liverpool pick up where we left off, Spurs bouncing back under Mourinho, and maybe even Chelsea become a threat yet again under Lampard’s kids this season. It’s not the end of the world, only the ending of an era of 10 years of unbelievable growth.

From here, City as a club (and team) needs to mature into what “The Project” was supposed to become. The recent investment from America appears to indicate the future is a strong one, but business takes place in the boardroom, while the football, which pays for it all, has to be done on the field. Let’s hope that is where the focus is kept, and where the time, effort and money is now spent to reinvigorate this squad.

The Future is Blue.
You are right that ten years of investment came to fruition in the last two unbelievable seasons and we were within 3 matches of winning everything, Pep, Sheikh and everyone could’ve just walked away dropped the mic and said Mission Accomplished. Look where we were in 2008 until now, we can’t win it every year, we are still second, in CL knockout stages, carabaou cup 1/4 finals and technically still in a chance of a quadruple (I know dreaming), so a draw isn’t the end of the world but I do feel a shake up is needed with new younger blood coming through now, Garcia and Foden should be used now going forward and this will hopefully be a catalyst to jump,start us.
 
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It was also draining for the scousers and they had the heartache of losing out. Their CL win however has given them the belief and they are grinding wins out without playing well. We are not grinding out as many. Should have won today. Didn’t. They maybe shouldn’t have won, did .

yep, Barcelona fucked it up heavilly there. They would be devastated without that CL.
 
One thing that I've noticed with this team now is that we are soft as fuck. Apart from Dinho, no other player wants to put a foot in, perfect example was the the Newcastle defender running past 3 players that was too scared to put a foot in

Happens every game, we've gone from a bastard side to now soft fuckers
 
One thing that I've noticed with this team now is that we are soft as fuck. Apart from Dinho, no other player wants to put a foot in, perfect example was the the Newcastle defender running past 3 players that was too scared to put a foot in

Happens every game, we've gone from a bastard side to now soft fuckers
Definitely. No steel, too passive and on a few occasions lack of effort. Watch Stones for their first goal, absolutely shocking.
 
If true that's not good. Thought the clubs scouting reports were supposed to find out about possible attitude issues etc.

yeah me too. Hopefully it’s sorted but with the game time he is getting, maybe not.

His Bio isn’t great to be honest. Lots of moving around and Juve after signing him on a 5 year contract are allowing him to leave after one season, I would ask why if he was top notch.
 
So annoying reading week in week out about how shit we are, gets right on my tits. Let's get it right, we are not shit ,we are one of the top football teams in the World, not England, not Europe, in the World, we are suffering from a bit of a confidence thing at the moment, .maybe a bit from the injuries we have, maybe a bit from losing a great inspiration and Captain, maybe because some of the team are mentally tired after the previous seasons and maybe that a couple are not quite good enough for us or not performing well enough. But we are not shit. Ask any sensible football fans anywhere and they would say to us get your heads sorted you are a brilliant team. Sorry for shouting, WE ARE NOT SHIT
 
Need to reinvigorate the team with a couple of pacy signings in January. We just look flat and one-paced, half-arsed slow play. Imagine what it would do to this side if we signed Sancho in January.

Hopefully Laporte will be back by then too.
 
Carrying far to many injuries , in all areas. Style of play is great but you need your best players for it to work. We seem to be short of alternative ideas or options when one or two players get injured. Quite inconsistent with quantity of efforts on goal . Dare i say we could do with Steptoe from Leicester. Mahrez inconssistent, Gundogan too slow, Stones too promany soft mistakes, left back still an area of concern Chenko/Mendy/Angelino all drop bollocks .
Compared with Liverpool we have suffered too many losses to our squad, don't seem to have the drive, don't have the same fortune with VAR , opponents errors etc. Liverpool are getting the results but they aren't world beaters. At this rate though they may smash the PL record book and that will be a bit of a joke considering there fortune and decisions given by VAR

Hopefully, we can keep pushing for a second place slot, first place i think is lost but i've seen leads lost by Liverpool, who knows but it's a stretch. Still in all cup competitions so who knows , CL may be our year. Pep needs to pick the team up , everyone is looking sorry for themselves
 

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