Not really, it was the reason for calling the election.It is madness how simple and effective that ''Get Brexit Done'' message is.
UKIP gained around three times the number of votes that the SNP received, in an election, so if we changed the system,The votes for candidates in remain or 2nd ref parties will far out way the votes for leave candidates. But we have the system we have and that means tories are the only party that could get an outright majority.
May got 42% of the vote in 2017. I expect Johnson to do worse and get sub 40 but he could still get a majority of seats.
Lib Dem's could double their votes and get 1 or 2 more seats!
Spot onShe’s royally fucked up with the approach to Brexit. Didn’t think it through sufficiently, which is a shame because I think she’s far better on her feet that the **** and the wanker.
Big opportunity missed due to poor tactics. Fuck me, politics in this country is depressing.
I agree. Shame because I really like her actually. She seems decent and honest - that being a relative thing in politics of course.She’s royally fucked up with the approach to Brexit. Didn’t think it through sufficiently, which is a shame because I think she’s far better on her feet that the **** and the wanker.
Big opportunity missed due to poor tactics. Fuck me, politics in this country is depressing.
And a balls up from our perspective. A stronger LibDem showing in the polls would have helped keep the Marxists out.Spot on
No sympathy for her whatsoever. The idea that you could revoke article 50 and carry on like nothing happened was always going to be divisive and indefensible. The fact they thought this would work to their advantage so were willing to go for it shows them to be totally out of touch with the people they represent. They deserve what they are about to get. The only way forward is to leave, hopefully with a decent FTA which protects the economy, then those who wish to Remain argue to rejoin. The referendum result will have been respected and implemented and we can begin to focus on domestic issues, hopefully leading to a healing of the divisions over time. Anything else leads to more division, more anger, and a prolonging of the misery.She’s royally fucked up with the approach to Brexit. Didn’t think it through sufficiently, which is a shame because I think she’s far better on her feet that the **** and the wanker.
Big opportunity missed due to poor tactics. Fuck me, politics in this country is depressing.
I find it hard to disagree with anything you've posted there, mate.No sympathy for her whatsoever. The idea that you could revoke article 50 and carry on like nothing happened was always going to be divisive and indefensible. The fact they thought this would work to their advantage so were willing to go for it shows them to be totally out of touch with the people they represent. They deserve what they are about to get. The only way forward is to leave, hopefully with a decent FTA which protects the economy, then those who wish to Remain argue to rejoin. The referendum result will have been respected and implemented and we can begin to focus on domestic issues, hopefully leading to a healing of the divisions over time. Anything else leads to more division, more anger, and a prolonging of the misery.
Indeed, the Libs should be strolling in, as everyone's apparently remain now, the fact that the party actually implementing Brexit
is predicted to get around 30 times more seats than them suggests otherwise.
Other than the system that provides those numbers is a fucking joke.The 30 times tells us very little
ROFL. You clearly don't know any Leavers then.Few people care about Brexit anymore. Most people want it over and done with and out of the news, and Johnson's simplistically bullshit "Get Brexit Done" message is hitting home, even though anyone who takes an interest knows that it's a lie and leaving is just the start of years of uncertainty and decline while our inferior trading arrangements with our biggest trading partner is hammered out.
It's a shame that Corbyn and Swinson are both useless and the election winner will be the least disliked leader, with Johnson at -15% against Corbyn's -40% and Swinson's -20%.
It is madness how simple and effective that ''Get Brexit Done'' message is.
I'm surprised the simplicity of Swainsons revoke and remain isn't just as effective. Can it possibly be that more folk want to leave than remain?
Great post.No sympathy for her whatsoever. The idea that you could revoke article 50 and carry on like nothing happened was always going to be divisive and indefensible. The fact they thought this would work to their advantage so were willing to go for it shows them to be totally out of touch with the people they represent. They deserve what they are about to get. The only way forward is to leave, hopefully with a decent FTA which protects the economy, then those who wish to Remain argue to rejoin. The referendum result will have been respected and implemented and we can begin to focus on domestic issues, hopefully leading to a healing of the divisions over time. Anything else leads to more division, more anger, and a prolonging of the misery.
So it's not just that her revoke/remain policy isn't as popular as was hoped?No - practically all polling shows falling support for brexit.
The lib dems are not getting the votes as it is all about the split and for the vast majority voting Lib Dem would mean getting a tory. There will be millions of reluctant labour voters who would have preferred to vote lib dem but couldn't risk a tory victory over a labour incumbent.
So it's not just that her revoke/remain policy isn't as popular as was hoped?
Yes - I remain very concerned still - it is just shocking that they are still in with a chance.And a balls up from our perspective. A stronger LibDem showing in the polls would have helped keep the Marxists out.
I strongly suspect the main culprits on here are on £6.15 an hour and are just after whatever freebies they can get. Then there's the thickos making up the most of the rest and the one or two champagne socialists. The sort of Tony Robinson or Russel Brand types (Hello @BobKowalski ). Shed loads of money so don't give a toss if they have to pay a lot more.Yes - I remain very concerned still - it is just shocking that they are still in with a chance.
How can so many people be fooled?
How can so many people not remember or do the research to understand the 'legacy' that Labour always leave?
Even more worrying, how can so many people - quite a few on here - understand the truth but delude themselves and 'hunger' for a Corbyn/McDonnell (not Labour anymore) victory?