Var debate 2019/20

[Pam]

They were supposed to review incidents where a clear and obvious error was suspected. If the hair of one of your arms is offside and the ref fails to notice, is that a clear and obvious error? Thought not. Get this farce sorted out.

 

[Dirty Harry]

Yep it would seem that Gallagher and his mates dont know at what point the off side line is drawn, they guess

So going by that VAR isnt fit for purpose

I don’t think they do guess, I think they know full well there’s a big margin of error they can manipulate for when they do draw the line, the game’s so quick there can be a huge difference between showing the line when the ball just reaches the passing players foot and then actually leaving it, people are too busy watching the line and don’t pay full attention to the initial pass, a classic misdirection technique !

 

[BobbyBoy]

This is what we need in the Premier League. Of course there will still be bad decisions, but at least things are explained, and are a bit more transparent.

Here we have a media guy leading the calls for changes to the way VAR is communicated to the fans. Fuck how it's communicated, get rid of it and don't fall for the same crap again. It's the media that campaigned for years for VAR, not the players, not the club's and certainly not the fans.

VAR was introduced to give Sky and co more time to analysis decisions, stay on air longer and sell more ads. This farce is on them and any idiot that fell for their bullshit over the last 5 or 6 years. Having Mike Riley explain that Pukki's toenail or Jota's arse was a millimetre offside won't make the decision any more palatable.

 

[Busser]

I'd hazard a guess at 1! Against Villa I think, but funnily enough, their opposition teams have much higher numbers.

It's a funny old game.

I'd hazard a guess at 1! Against Villa I think, but funnily enough, their opposition teams have much higher numbers.

It's a funny old game.

Against Watford, Aston villa, Manchester United, and the goal that rashford scored againts them was a foul with Origi that ref just waived it off even when VAR clearly showed foul. Must be a few more, can't remember.

 

[Hart of the Matter]

This is what we need in the Premier League. Of course there will still be bad decisions, but at least things are explained, and are a bit more transparent.

This is shite. The questions would be put by the TV pundits!/commentator. They would choose the incidents to refer to and the nature of the questions. Detailed scrutiny of every decision that has gone our way and detailed scrutiny of decisions against Liverpool and United. This wood apply even more pressure to refs to get the preferred decision.
So naive to think this will help. It will add to the problem. It helps the TV companies play to thier audiences.....

 

[Franny's toilet roll]

Did that cnut actually say that,what a fucking prick if he did,and you left out it hit lalana’s arm when passing it to mane to score ...

i don't think it hit Lelana's arm, seemed top of shoulder to me

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

I think it’s beginning to fall apart. Even the gutter press are running with headlines about VAR helping Liverpool to the title.

I fully expect a couple of dodgy decisions against them now they are plus 13 points ahead....just to demonstrate it ‘evens itself out’

 

[jacko74]

Can someone confirm what the Premier League quote of ''we have a strategy in place'' was?

What was the full quote, what was the wider context it was supposedly in reference to and who said it?

 

[Dirty Harry]

Can someone confirm what the Premier League quote of ''we have a strategy in place'' was?

What was the full quote, what was the wider context it was supposedly in reference to and who said it?

" He said, "Without being disrespectful to any club, we have a strategic plan at the Premier League and the strategic plan says putting a new name on the trophy in every six-year period. That doesn't mean we don't want any team to win it. It just means we would rather see some sort of rotation, for all neutrals in the game (what Leicester achieved) was a big moment." Asked how many teams "were in with a realistic chance of adding their name to the Premier League trophy," Scudamore joked, "If Leicester did it last season then you would have to say 17" (SKY SPORTS, 8/10).

There's also this

Speaking in South Africa as part of the Premier League’s promotional work in the country, Scudamore acknowledged the mass appeal of United is key to attracting an overseas audience but viewers may turn off if their favourites are underperforming.

“It’s a double-edged sword,” Scudamore told Bloomberg. “When your most popular club isn’t doing as well, that costs you interest and audience in some places.”

“There’s lots of fans around the world who wish Manchester United were winning it again, but you have to balance that off against, generally, we’re in the business of putting on a competition and competition means people can compete.”


I suspect united may well be the team to challenge Liverpool's dominance over the next couple of years or so, how convenient !

 

[daveiw01]

Against Watford, Aston villa, Manchester United, and the goal that rashford scored againts them was a foul with Origi that ref just waived it off even when VAR clearly showed foul. Must be a few more, can't remember.

'Busser' you say? Not Bus bottler?

Can you not get on your own forum busser? Your username alone gives you away.

However I will indulge you this once and agree that its probably more than one occasion in total, but even a blind man can see that var has assisted you greatly, being on the right end of dodgy decisions the vast majority of the time. There are too many examples to list.

Your fan base are scum on the whole and most neutrals truly dislike you and your self entitled club.

Enjoy your tainted title.

Tata.

 

[Busser]

'Busser' you say? Not Bus bottler?

Can you not get on your own forum busser? Your username alone gives you away.

However I will indulge you this once and agree that its probably more than one occasion in total, but even a blind man can see that var has assisted you greatly, being on the right end of dodgy decisions the vast majority of the time. There are too many examples to list.

Your fan base are scum on the whole and most neutrals truly dislike you and your self entitled club.

Enjoy your tainted title.

Tata.

You alright there mate? I thought you asked a genuine question and I answered, that's all. Sorry if you are offended.

 

[daveiw01]

You alright there mate? I thought you asked a genuine question and I answered, that's all. Sorry if you are offended.

This is the last time I will do you the courtesy of replying in this thread.

I'm not offended, I just don't like Liverpool , or as I said, your smug sense of entitlement.

I pointed out that you have had far more than the rub of the green, to pretend otherwise is ridiculous.

You will win the league this season, you're currently more consistent than the rest of us, but it would be much closer and more interesting had many of your points not been gifted to you by VAR.

As I said 'tainted', 'mate'.

 

[bondsman]

This is the last time I will do you the courtesy of replying in this thread.

I'm not offended, I just don't like Liverpool , or as I said, your smug sense of entitlement.

I pointed out that you have had far more than the rub of the green, to pretend otherwise is ridiculous.

You will win the league this season, you're currently more consistent than the rest of us, but it would be much closer and more interesting had many of your points not been gifted to you by VAR.

As I said 'tainted', 'mate'.

1 point instead of 3 VS Leicester
1 point last night instead of 3
There’s 4 points from two games without mentioning the VVD penalty and sending off vs Everton at 2-1 that wasn’t given, the 3 penalties that we weren’t given. Even a four point reduction at this point would mean the title race was still there.

 

[Gundogan's Moustache]

Yesterday royally fucked me off , how can it be inconclusive that it hit a hand in the Liverpool goal but conclusive that the Wolves player was apparently offside


It’s bent simple as

 

[bondsman]

Yesterday royally fucked me off , how can it be inconclusive that it hit a hand in the Liverpool goal but conclusive that the Wolves player was apparently offside


It’s bent simple as

The only inconclusive handball was lallana’s ‘shoulder’ the VVD he took the laces out

 

[kippaxking79]

I gurantee on the final couple of games this season VAR will relegate a club with a farcical decision or cost someone a 4th place. It's not fit for purpose. The game is even more subjective than it ever was. Should be used for penalty calls, dives in the box, encroachment for penaltys, and bad tackles (yellow to red upgrade). Leave the rest alone.

 

[blueinsa]

Yesterday royally fucked me off , how can it be inconclusive that it hit a hand in the Liverpool goal but conclusive that the Wolves player was apparently offside


It’s bent simple as

I laughed at inconclusive.

Without it hitting his fucking arm/hand the ball goes out of play for a throw in FFS.

Instead he hits a long ball that they score from and VAR sees no issue with it lol.

It's fucking bent!

 

[DeludedRed]

I laughed at inconclusive.

Without it hitting his fucking arm/hand the ball goes out of play for a throw in FFS.

Instead he hits a long ball that they score from and VAR sees no issue with it lol.

It's fucking bent!

Come on mate look at it from that angle. I know there is a lot of bad blood and animosity between a lot of us and you but some of the stuff is embarrassing from both sets of fans.

Some of you are just blinded by your obvious hatred of the club to actually see things rationally when the right decision has been made.

 

[give it to gordon]

I have watched the wolves goal over and over and still cant work out who is off side .....I have seen the still picture but cant put that into the build up for the goal ...perhaps the premier league highlights on YouTube start the build up after the off side

 

[TheCentralScrutinizer]

I think it’s beginning to fall apart. Even the gutter press are running with headlines about VAR helping Liverpool to the title.

I fully expect a couple of dodgy decisions against them now they are plus 13 points ahead....just to demonstrate it ‘evens itself out’

said this a while back....a few things will start going against them now their 15 points ahead & the damage is done,also you reckon Mahrez would have got that penalty 2 months ago?