Donald Trump

[SWP's back]

I'm here you fucking windbag!

As for me being embedded in Trumpism or whatever that is and supposed to mean............fucking lol.

He lives inside your heads and you accuse me of that?

Brilliant.

Your reaction is fucking odd though. You appear to have all the comprehension [of what this event means and may trigger] of a house brick.

 

[mat]

"Me President. Wapo have got hold of the emails which could impeach you."


"Order the kill of the Iranian general. That should keep them busy"

 

[blueinsa]

Your reaction is fucking odd though. You appear to have all the comprehension [of what this event means and may trigger] of a house brick.

Because i look beyond the narrative of "its all Trumps fault"?

This is one bad ****, finally got rid off after years of failed attempts.

For every so called good deed his force is credited for they carried numerous despicable others because instability is their key aim in the region.

He and his force are not our allies, nor is Iran who is one of the biggest state sponsors of terrorism in the world and this guy was a key part in enabling it.

I get the importance of it because the region is a powder keg. Everything done or not done has political repercussions.

America has said they had intelligence he was involved in the planning of attacks on its citizens and servicemen and that he was responsible for the deaths of servicemen and fellow coalition forces over the years, something i have little doubt is true.

Good fucking riddance.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

"Me President. Wapo have got hold of the emails which could impeach you."


"Order the kill of the Iranian general. That should keep them busy"

It certainly is convenient timing, but I couldn't see his generals being onboard with that kind of decision. It has to be an executive order.

What concerns me is the fact this may have been an illegal act under international law. If that's the case it's a game changer.

 

[SWP's back]

This is what I’m talking about. No one will shed a tear for his death. It’s what may be coming next that is the problem. Saying “good riddance” and putting your fingers in your ears doesn’t really cut it in grown up real world.

 

[mat]

It certainly is convenient timing, but I couldn't see his generals being onboard with that kind of decision. It has to be an executive order.

What concerns me is the fact this may have been an illegal act under international law. If that's the case it's a game changer.

I'm just waiting for his Arse licking in Chief Lindsey Graham comes out with.

 

[mat]

This is what I’m talking about. No one will shed a tear for his death. It’s what may be coming next that is the problem. Saying “good riddance” and putting your fingers in your ears doesn’t really cut it in grown up real world.

The Yanks havent learned from Saddam Hussein.

He was a horrible, nasty bastard. Geopolitically that horrible nasty bastard kept a lid on the tensions in the area. You could argue Assad the same.

 

[blueinsa]

This is what I’m talking about. No one will shed a tear for his death. It’s what may be coming next that is the problem. Saying “good riddance” and putting your fingers in your ears doesn’t really cut it in grown up real world.

Think that's directed at me so what do you suggest Bluemoon does this morning about it?

My take is there will be a war of words and that in the future, Iran will carry on regardless doing what it does and the USA will do what it does and that is strike every now and then to show Iran its power.

This isn't a new escalation or a new tactic, its just a different name.

The game will go on.

 

[west didsblue]

Think that's directed at me so what do you suggest Bluemoon does this morning about it?

My take is there will be a war of words and that in the future, Iran will carry on regardless doing what it does and the USA will do what it does and that is strike every now and then to show Iran its power.

This isn't a new escalation or a new tactic, its just a different name.

The game will go on.

Killing their number 2 leader isn't an escalation?
What would be then?

 

[blueinsa]

Killing their number 2 leader isn't an escalation?
What would be then?

This general whilst important and powerful wasn't their number 2 leader.

 

[west didsblue]

This general whilst important and powerful wasn't their number 2 leader.

Ok, I will rephrase it.
He was considered by many to be the second most powerful person in Iran, behind Khamenei, and arguably ahead of Rouhani.
Same question applies - what would be an escalation if this isn't?

 

[blueinsa]

Ok, I will rephrase it.
He was considered by many to be the second most powerful person in Iran, behind Khamenei, and arguably ahead of Rouhani.
Same question applies - what would be an escalation if this isn't?

Its a very successful targeted attack on someone the United States felt was planning attacks and responsible for the deaths of US citizens.

I doubt they care if its viewed as an escalation or not but attacking US soil which their Embassy is and killing a US citizen was never going to go unanswered.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Ok, I will rephrase it.
He was considered by many to be the second most powerful person in Iran, behind Khamenei, and arguably ahead of Rouhani.
Same question applies - what would be an escalation if this isn't?

It is escalation, but I don't think the motives are founded around the Middle East.

The timing of the strike 'conveniently' hijacks the news cycle just as the unredacted email's surface and the Muller files FOI request drops.

You have to look at who is potentially in the frame from any fallout from these documents, and who would have been in the Chain of Command in any decision to carry out this strike. Then ask yourself just how convenient the timing of this strike actually was for Trump. And if this does escalate, Trump will be a war time president in the middle of an election year.

Maybe I'm wrong, and this is all just a total coincidence, but this is Trump and coincidence does have a habit of following him around.

 

[SWP's back]

Its a very successful targeted attack on someone the United States felt was planning attacks and responsible for the deaths of US citizens.

I doubt they care if its viewed as an escalation or not but attacking US soil which their Embassy is and killing a US citizen was never going to go unanswered.

Oh they care but it wasn’t a “they” decision was it. Nothing is a joint decision or cogent strategy with Trump.

As for your slightly erroneous (for the second time) point about him planning attacks:



If Americans die in revenge attacks, will you still view it as successful? What body count will take it across the line to a stupid move?

 

[blueinsa]

Going to congress to authorise an airstrike?

That's a new one.

Not at all based on reality though.

 

[west didsblue]

Its a very successful targeted attack on someone the United States felt was planning attacks and responsible for the deaths of US citizens.

I doubt they care if its viewed as an escalation or not but attacking US soil which their Embassy is and killing a US citizen was never going to go unanswered.

So you agree it was an escalation as far as Iran are concerned.
Thanks for confirming.

 

[SWP's back]

Going to congress to authorise an airstrike?

That's a new one.

Not at all based on reality though.

An air strike to assassinate the second most important Iranian in a foreign sovereign country. So yeah, Congressional approval may be an idea. But what would the former DoD Head Council know about things when we have the genius that is you?

Debating anything on capital punishment or war with you is completely pointless as it seems you never made it out of puberty on the issues and have no fucking clue about real world consequences. And it’s not just that you’ve no clue about them, you don’t care either, so long as you can wave your flag and say “yeah the bad guy’s dead, woop woop”.

Most of us grew out of that idiotic black and white thinking in our teens. No wonder ric binned you off.

 

[MCBlueFan]

A completely foreseeable series of events has transpired following Trump's unilateral rejection of the Iran nuclear deal. What's unforeseeable is how on earth we - Europe, America, the Middle East, etc., - get out of this mess. Likely Iran will become even more aggressive and for sure they'll develop nuclear capability. No reason at all why they shouldn't now.

 

[pudge]

 

[blueinsa]

So you agree it was an escalation as far as Iran are concerned.
Thanks for confirming.

Ive confirmed it can most certainly be seen both ways but as usual, sides have been taken and you are seemingly not on the side of our biggest ally.

You will have the usual company dont worry.