Another new Brexit thread

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west didsblue said:
I actually agree with you that his comments are to appease the morons. The reality will be some sort of deal that changes as little as possible but that wouldn’t go down well with the Brexit cheerleaders and the EU. The EU are no mugs though, they’ll see straight through it.
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Javid is right - if the EU make a law that sausages have to be 10cm long then we can throw 15cm british sausages from the top of big ben and eat them in parliament square. British sausage makers will be able to make any length sausage they like. However, most will probably make 10 cm ones so they can trade to the EU even though we have not adopted their EU law and are not in the EU. This is actually great news for those concerned about the negative impact of brexit- it's the ultimate cushion, soft brexit, transition (whatever term you like). Business will dictate terms to us just as the EU do now, but market forces will dictate if we choose to comply.
 
bluethrunthru said:
PMSL - how can you have any confidence in this bunch of wankers? We are going to be fucked over - by Nissan.....loving the Mackems getting what they wanted lol

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Just shite. "Businesses now have certainty but I don't know what about..."
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Javid is right - if the EU make a law that sausages have to be 10cm long then we can throw 15cm british sausages from the top of big ben and eat them in parliament square. British sausage makers will be able to make any length sausage they like. However, most will probably make 10 cm ones so they can trade to the EU even though we have not adopted their EU law and are not in the EU. This is actually great news for those concerned about the negative impact of brexit- it's the ultimate cushion, soft brexit, transition (whatever term you like). Business will dictate terms to us just as the EU do now, but market forces will dictate if we choose to comply.
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Correct, but there will be the extra overhead for companies to demonstrate compliance which will be less straightforward if the UK regulatory framework is not aligned to the EU one. Without an aligned regulatory framework in the UK, there will need to be other means to demonstrate compliance which will inevitably put up costs.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
Lol. The oddly entitled Repeal Act commits all extant EU regs to British Law. All the shit we make coforms to EU legislation, and if you think things are suddenly going to start coming off UK production lines made to a different standard the day after brexit you are bonkers. We won't be adopting any new EU legislation, so we'll move gradually out of alignment I suppose but I expect that may be a generation away. Manufacturers will always produce what the market requires and will always align to the fussiest (profitable)customer. Johnson and Javid were playing to the brexit idiots, and accidentally triggered the remain idiots in the process.
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The problem is that if we aren't fully aligned, then we have to start proving that individual products are = red tape and costs.
 
Vic said:
The problem is that if we aren't fully aligned, then we have to start proving that individual products are = red tape and costs.
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So apart from some additional cost for demonstrating regulatory compliance and tariffs on goods and services not covered by the FTA (if it happens), and logistical delays due to customs checks, trade between the UK (or should I say GB) and the EU (and the 60 countries the EU has trading arrangements with and NI) will be barely affected.
When is someone going to tell me the tangible benefits so I can get behind it and give it my full support.
 
So we just all need to be positive and get behind Brexit and despite all the claims being made to the opposite in fact only good things will come. I am positive and get behind City but I can see the reality of our title defence FFS...........
 
bluethrunthru said:
why? why should I get behind something that I always believed was going to be economically damaging to my country - a view now admitted by the Chancellor of the Exchequer despite the lies told by the Govt? I am not a cult member I will not join you in mass self harm thanks.
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Nothing you say here challenges or addresses the comment that I made......……..

mcfc1632 said:
FFS fellas - the die is cast now - we are leaving - time to start supporting the UK in negotiations rather than the EU
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Even if you have always believed Brexit was going to be economically damaging to the UK - the die is indeed now cast - we are leaving - and it is indeed time to start supporting the UK in negotiations rather than the EU

It is one thing being anxious/concerned - some of you seem to be quite desperate for bad news/poor outcomes for the UK - which is what I am challenging
 
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Mëtal Bikër said:
Accepting this is the position we're in and doing what you can to ensure the doom policies you fear don't materialise.

Or you can continue to sit there, sulking, doing nothing, pointing out every minor bump along the way, exaggerating the issue to be something "catastrophic" and reciting your new mantra of "oh if only we hadn't left the EU...!"

But you do what you like, the rest of us will be working together and face the challenges as they arrive.
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Still full of shit i see, mate.
Would you like to show me where i've been 'reciting my new mantra' or 'exaggerating' or 'sulking'? Shouldn't take you long as i've only made about 4 posts on here in months.
So, one more time; How exactly, do i show my 'support'?
 
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mcfc1632 said:
Nothing you say here challenges or addresses the comment that I made......……..


Even if you have always believed Brexit was going to be economically damaging to the UK - the die is indeed now cast - we are leaving - and it is indeed time to start supporting the UK in negotiations rather than the EU

It is one thing being anxious/concerned - some of you seem to be quite desperate for bad news/poor outcomes for the UK - which is what I am challenging
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There you go again with your it’s time to support the uk nonsense. How exactly do we do that and what difference will it make? Is all debate now over and we all just have to accept our lot and get on with it.

You are another that no matter what anyone says has convinced yourself that people want Brexit to fail rather than fear it. Could be a self fulfilling prophecy though and if it does “fail” (I don’t know how we will measure that) you could blame the lack of “support” as a factor
 
mcfc1632 said:
Nothing you say here challenges or addresses the comment that I made......……..


Even if you have always believed Brexit was going to be economically damaging to the UK - the die is indeed now cast - we are leaving - and it is indeed time to start supporting the UK in negotiations rather than the EU

It is one thing being anxious/concerned - some of you seem to be quite desperate for bad news/poor outcomes for the UK - which is what I am challenging
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You're challenging nothing. You and the rest have gone into a bizarre mode of demanding support for UK negotiations over which neither you, me nor our sovereign Parliament will have any say, and refusing to engage in any debate about what the best trade deal would be - and dismiss my repeating what was promised by Leave as the best deal by "there it is again". Of course it is - anything less than that will be damaging but none of you really seems to care. Anyone who does is "hoping it goes wrong".

I've never known the like. Donkeys led by donkeys.
 
Vic said:
You're challenging nothing. You and the rest have gone into a bizarre mode of demanding support for UK negotiations over which neither you, me nor our sovereign Parliament will have any say, and refusing to engage in any debate about what the best trade deal would be - and dismiss my repeating what was promised by Leave as the best deal by "there it is again". Of course it is - anything less than that will be damaging but none of you really seems to care. Anyone who does is "hoping it goes wrong".

I've never known the like. Donkeys led by donkeys.
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Minor side point I wish to make, Parliament voted for the WA and therefore giving the government permission to negotiate on the nation’s behalf.
 
journolud said:
There you go again with your it’s time to support the uk nonsense. How exactly do we do that and what difference will it make? Is all debate now over and we all just have to accept our lot and get on with it.

You are another that no matter what anyone says has convinced yourself that people want Brexit to fail rather than fear it. Could be a self fulfilling prophecy though and if it does “fail” (I don’t know how we will measure that) you could blame the lack of “support” as a factor
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He's already lined up Jezza for the blame in the event of no deal!
Unbelievable but true.
 
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