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bluethrunthru said:
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Terry Christian had a big line of Charlie this morning on gmtv mouthing off about brexit.

what a red twat.

gives mancs a bad name full of attitude. Total ****.
 
Ryan Air making its unfair State Aid case against the Govt over its Flybe bailout. Spot the number of times they shoehorn the word ‘billionaires’ along with ‘mates’ and ‘pals’ into this open letter to the Chancellor.

Note: EU State Aid rules apply under the WA for NI businesses or any UK business that intersects with NI even if we exit transition without a deal.

 
BobKowalski said:
Ryan Air making its unfair State Aid case against the Govt over its Flybe bailout. Spot the number of times they shoehorn the word ‘billionaires’ along with ‘mates’ and ‘pals’ into this open letter to the Chancellor.

Note: EU State Aid rules apply under the WA for NI businesses or any UK business that intersects with NI even if we exit transition without a deal.

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Lol, O'Leary can be a caustic fucker when he wants.
 
BobKowalski said:
Ryan Air making its unfair State Aid case against the Govt over its Flybe bailout. Spot the number of times they shoehorn the word ‘billionaires’ along with ‘mates’ and ‘pals’ into this open letter to the Chancellor.

Note: EU State Aid rules apply under the WA for NI businesses or any UK business that intersects with NI even if we exit transition without a deal.

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Have to say - great note

Love the front of the fella - even though, this subject aside, I generally find him to be self-serving ****

And this aside - thank you for starting to make the case for the opportunities that the UK government will have to (appropriately - not in this case) support UK businesses
and interests with the removal/reduction in the State-Aid constraints.

People have been asking for examples of benefits of Leaving the EU - this is a good one
 
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BobKowalski said:
Ryan Air making its unfair State Aid case against the Govt over its Flybe bailout. Spot the number of times they shoehorn the word ‘billionaires’ along with ‘mates’ and ‘pals’ into this open letter to the Chancellor.

Note: EU State Aid rules apply under the WA for NI businesses or any UK business that intersects with NI even if we exit transition without a deal.

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Ha, can't say I've ever particularly warmed to O'Leary as a bloke, but this is good.
 
mcfc1632 said:
Have to say - great note

Love the front of the fella - even though, this subject aside, I generally find him to be self-serving ****

And this aside - thank you for starting to make the case for the opportunities that the UK government will have to (appropriately - not in this case) support UK businesses
and interests with the removal/reduction in the State-Aid constraints.

People have been asking for examples of benefits of Leaving the UK - this is a good one
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Think you mean EU and no, as I said, EU state aid laws will apply to the UK as they are written into the Withdrawal Agreement. They will apply to all NI businesses, any UK businesses that intersect with NI or to any UK wide law that encompasses NI.

For those who seem to have forgotten. As per the WA, NI will fall under the economic writ of the EU.
 
BobKowalski said:
Think you mean EU and no, as I said, EU state aid laws will apply to the UK as they are written into the Withdrawal Agreement. They will apply to all NI businesses, any UK businesses that intersect with NI or to any UK wide law that encompasses NI.

For those who seem to have forgotten. As per the WA, NI will fall under the economic writ of the EU.
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Thanks - I did mean the EU - or perhaps I was looking to the consequences of a full implementation of an eventual version of Brexit that frees the UK from many constraints, including State-Aid rules;-)

And.......

If being free of State-Aid rules is one of (what should be) many pre-determined outcomes of Leaving the EU - as it surely should be - then that is what needs to be planned and its achievement managed in pre-determined stages.

I have been clear that, despite the removal of the ruinous unfettered Back-Stop, this WA is still largely the product of May's / Robbins utter incompetence and, accordingly, the UK starts 2020 in a worst position than if starting afresh.

Good management of this issue by the UK would be clear on the pre-determined outcome and the stages to achieve that - including the timing and consequences of hard decisions (what needs to be broken if necessary) to secure that outcome or at least as close to it as possible - back again to the achievement of ideal, realistic and fallback negotiating positions.

As we have discussed before, the EU on the other hand, will be preparing likewise to secure the UK wrapped up in as many EU controlled, including arbitration by the ECJ, constraints as possible.

The main difference between our views is that you seem to take and welcome it as a given that the EU will secure all they/you wish for - I hope for some, previously sadly lacking, professionalism from the UK
 
BobKowalski said:
Think you mean EU and no, as I said, EU state aid laws will apply to the UK as they are written into the Withdrawal Agreement. They will apply to all NI businesses, any UK businesses that intersect with NI or to any UK wide law that encompasses NI.

For those who seem to have forgotten. As per the WA, NI will fall under the economic writ of the EU.
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Any deal with the USA will also require just as strict stipulations on state aid if not stricter.
 
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