Another new Brexit thread

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Two Gun Bob said:
Yes well that was just a still photo taken to promote his film. Have a look at this then because if you met this lad on the field of battle then most assuredly would your Salford arsehole be twitching. One of the greatest Henry the V out there was our Kenny. For a Muse of fire, that would ascend. The brightest heaven of invention. A kingdom for a stage, princes to act and monarchs to behold the swelling scene. Then should the war-like Harry, like himself, assume the port of Mars. And at his heels, leash'd in like hounds, should famine, sword, and fire crouch for employment.

Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide, hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit to his full height. On, on, you noblest English.



I`m not knocking Shakespeare`s words 8-)

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Vic said:
Well, statistically. we are. At least, better educated.... and if someone says that means I'm saying that all leave voters are thick, well obviously only a thick person would draw that conclusion.
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It's one of the leave narratives that annoys me the most, the "we're all thick racists" line. Obviously not all thick, and obviously not all racists, so I don't think that.

I just think they're all twats.
 
blueinsa said:
We have gone from everything changes the day we vote to leave.......to everything changes the day we brexit......to nothing changes the day we leave but it will, just mark my words.

Politics and this is all about politics means plenty changes all the time with some of it great and some of it shit. That's the way of things.

Anyone looking forwards to years of each side claiming victory on this?
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Its actually nothing like that. As of right now and this time next week we are and will be in full alignment with the EU rules in the SM and CU, all under the remit of the ECJ. We will be out of all that in less than a years time. That is going to come round very quickly. 6 months in reality for a deal to emerge if we are seriously going to build up customs infrastructure and process and implement it on time. Once that starts to happen businesses will react.

This will go quiet for a couple of months and then this will start to go to shit at some point over the summer. There will be zero ambiguity on the cause of the shit. Give it a year and lets see where we are and what is to blame.
 
Gaudion M said:
Its actually nothing like that. As of right now and this time next week we are and will be in full alignment with the EU rules in the SM and CU, all under the remit of the ECJ. We will be out of all that in less than a years time. That is going to come round very quickly. 6 months in reality for a deal to emerge if we are seriously going to build up customs infrastructure and process and implement it on time. Once that starts to happen businesses will react.

This will go quiet for a couple of months and then this will start to go to shit at some point over the summer. There will be zero ambiguity on the cause of the shit. Give it a year and lets see where we are and what is to blame.
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Agree lets see where we are in a year.

I'm shall we say far more optimistic than you are.
 
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Personally think today should have been used to respect the event and unify the country.
 
Gaudion M said:
I'd say i'm less deluded.
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You would.

Remain arguments have been based on a "I am considerably more intelligent than you" stance so instead of being more pessimistic, you have to say instead that i am basically deluded.

Thats ok, ive been told the last 3 years brexit would never happen and it would all be binned off as well....
 
KS55 said:
1.Blame the court reporter for lack of paras
2.Balance German Domestic v Euro law. That was my point about will. The Germans would have to amend their constitution to give proper effect to EAW, but have shown no inclination to do so. They will certainly not make a special case.
3. I'm not sure what procedure Germany uses to give effect to EU laws but a codified system makes this much harder. The UK, being a common law country, has no such difficulties.
4.EAW is not international law, it is given effect by changes to the domestic law in each EU country. The German constitutional court is saying that whatever was enacted into German law was unconstitutional. This follows the ruling some years ago that German law cannot be rendered nugatory by enacting EU measures.
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1. Relax
2. Yes. They will not make a special provision for the UK.
3. I presume they pass specific laws to give it effect and this then can be tested under constitutional law. If I recall correctly Germany has a specific constitutional court.
4. Agreed. I used international as a distinction from domestic and how one is shaped by the other. I presume EU requirements are codified into German law this becoming German law and retaining its primary status.
 
blueinsa said:
You would.

Remain arguments have been based on a "I am considerably more intelligent than you" stance so instead of being more pessimistic, you have to say instead that i am basically deluded.

Thats ok, ive been told the last 3 years brexit would never happen and it would all be binned off as well....
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You said it yourself on many occasions :)
 
Two Gun Bob said:
Yes well that was just a still photo taken to promote his film. Have a look at this then because if you met this lad on the field of battle then most assuredly would your Salford arsehole be twitching. One of the greatest Henry the V out there was our Kenny. For a Muse of fire, that would ascend the brightest heaven of invention. A kingdom for a stage, princes to act and monarchs to behold the swelling scene. Then should the war-like Harry, like himself, assume the port of Mars. And at his heels, leash'd in like hounds, should famine, sword, and fire crouch for employment.

Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide, hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit to his full height. On, on, you noblest English.

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Mate why are you getting all turned on by a medieval warrior king?
Worth remembering it all went tits up when his son took over.
 
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