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Fun report in the Telegraph (Foster).

UK will run full border for EU imports - 'no deal' plans prioritising trade flows to be junked. Biz groups to be told the 'good news' in meeting on Feb 10. Radical departure from the October 'no deal' plans, that were designed to minimise checks to keep goods flowing - medicines, fruit and veg. etc. Per source: “We are planning full checks on all EU imports - export declarations, security declarations, animal health checks and all supermarket goods to pass through Border Inspections Posts.”

Per source, No 10 has ordered all Whitehall departments to prepare for the full checks. XO committee, with Border Delivery Group will supervise and deliver. This is radical shift; aim looks to be to create some leverage re EU and 'WTO rules' offering easy access to UK. Trade groups pretty shocked when I spoke to them today.

One trade chief, who spoke on condition of anonymity to preserve his relations with govt, said the UK “might as well put the barbed wire up”. A second noted Gove had said that the UK wanted a trade relationship based on the EU-Canada deal - but that requires *one in ten* of all animal products to have physical checks. “The borders won’t work if you have to run these types of processes.".

Haulier will be hit hardest. Freight Transport Association's says if govt carries thru expect "serious consequences for supply chains" calls it "unwelcome departure from the previous pragmatic approach”. British Retail Consortium wanrs of "significant impact on produce in our stores"... "less availability, shorter shelf life for fresh produce, and potentially higher costs for consumers.”.

One one level this makes sense from a trade policy perspective. As we saw with 'no deal' tariffs offering zero-tariff access to UK for 87% of goods, Canada dropped its 'rollover' deal. Why bother if markets open anyway? Which is why the 'no deal' tariff schedule is also being reviewed.

But truth is, EU is unlikely to be moved by these threats - UK doesn't have the land, the time, the personnel to really start full checks January 2021. Per EU senior source: “We saw similar threats from Theresa May, but frankly we never believed them. And if the UK is actually ready for border checks - which are indeed coming - then so much the better for both sides.”
 
You’ll have to enlighten me on your posts

I just think they seem to care a bit too much (ie I think they are a tad disingenuous)

I voted out but if remain had won I am pretty sure I would have been gutted for ten minutes and then got on with my life
Meant to tag me?
 
I agree with you entirely for the vast majority of the more vocal remain posters on here.

Had this been project leave led by Corbyn and labour it would have been the best thing since sliced bread.

Totally an anti anything Tory stance for many of them imo.

I don’t think they have ever been further away from winning an election
And they seem to have cheerleaders (Owen Jones, ash sakar etc) who are from families of trade unionists, middle class,degree educated, London based and yet feel that they are and represent the ‘working class’
Labour think working class = poor, uneducated and thick
They are not all like that!!!!
 
On a grim night I take solace in the fact that Katie Hopkins probably had a load of celebratory tweets lined up that will never see the light of day. Small victories, and all that.

How its took so long to silence the vile woman i will never know tbh.
 
Incredible really that her “final solution” tweet didn’t see her booted into oblivion.

Ive said before she is a troll, the same as Trump but fuck me, her racist shite went to a whole new level and the police should also be involved imo.
 
Might just be me but do these remainers really give that much of a shit about in or out
I mean I think they are essentially just socialist worker anti Tory protesters
And I think they have killed the Labour Party in the process
And so the process of reconciliation begins...
 
OMG the GBP is... actually up against the USD and the EUR, and ending the month on a high.

Huh, unexpected.
 
Never thought I’d say this, but fair play to Steve Baker for showing a bit more of a conciliatory tone than some of the gloating buffoons. Fingers crossed that the future isn’t as grim as many predict.
To be fair it’s the buffoons on both sides that have made it so unbearable
And so the process of reconciliation begins...

Maybe a slight generalisation granted!
It’s a bit like the thick uneducated racist bigot argument
 
Maybe a slight generalisation granted!
It’s a bit like the thick uneducated racist bigot argument
No sensible remainers really said that on here though. Most of the references to “thick uneducated racist bigots” tend to come from the leave side. The lie became the truth, and all that.
 
Good news from now is that rather be on the defensive of project leave we can just click off the Johnson lies to get eected and the reality of Brexit .................gonna be fun
 
I don’t think they have ever been further away from winning an election
And they seem to have cheerleaders (Owen Jones, ash sakar etc) who are from families of trade unionists, middle class,degree educated, London based and yet feel that they are and represent the ‘working class’
Labour think working class = poor, uneducated and thick
They are not all like that!!!!
Au contraire, the mistake was thinking the 'working class' was more intelligent than to fall for Johnson's lies.
 
No sensible remainers really say that on here though. Most of the references to “thick uneducated racist bigots” tend to come from the leave side. The lie became the truth, and all that.

To say it comes from the leave side is not true. Maybe not from sensible remainers granted but certainly from some remainers
What I am saying is that you can vote leave without having a Union Jack on your Twitter: Facebook logo in the same way you can vote remain without an eu flag on it
I won’t be partying that we have left in the same way I don’t understand people marching to stay
I think there is more to it than just leave/remain in some peoples eyes
 
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