Another new Brexit thread

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Why don't I believe this?

Because you are quite myopic on this subject where you don't see or accept there is a lot of fuckwittery involved with brexit.

Not everyone is and not all leaver are fuckwits , but there will be pubs that would have been as @mat described
 
Because you are quite myopic on this subject where you don't see or accept there is a lot of fuckwittery involved with brexit.

Not everyone is and not all leaver are fuckwits , but there will be pubs that would have been as @mat described

That's it!

I'm myopic.

Thanks mate..
 
The timeline on that twitter feed is hilarious, rampant hatred towards the British (Well mainly English). This is going to go on and on the trenches have been dug and the social media raging minority are screaming at each other in an echo chamber of their own making.

It's what makes me laugh when they post it up.
 
An example of just how easy it is to make shit up to suit a narrative in here.

Did you read the post it was a reply to?

If so did it make you go oh fucking dear?

Nope didn't think so.
Right. Pub breakfast (not Wetherspoons) then foodbank collection in supermarket. Might have a watching brief for the thread but apart from sniping about whether Johnson is going for alignment or border checks, I'm not sure how much time to waste on it!

It is now obvious that Brexit will mean inconvenience and added costs for imports and exports, for any Brit travelling to the EU, and for some intangible and spurious concept of sovereignty, freedom and....

I interrupt this rant to bring you the guy in a Leeds pub last night recorded (apparently seriously) saying he's been wanting to leave since he was five and lost sixpence from his pocket money in 1972 - because it changed to two and a half p. Thick doesn't come into it.


Did the whole pub clap and cheer?

And I'll leave you with a remainer I heard in the pub during the referendum crowing (when he thought remain would win) that "at least with the EU the immigrants are white. If we leave there'll be more p**** and c**** coming in. That's why I'm voting for remain".
 
The timeline on that twitter feed is hilarious, rampant hatred towards the British (Well mainly English). This is going to go on and on the trenches have been dug and the social media raging minority are screaming at each other in an echo chamber of their own making.


I am a proud englishman and british person, but that bunch on that video are an embarrassment to our nation.
 
and while my unexpected free pass into the empire of the Barclay Bros is still valid
How the doomongers got it wrong about Britain's Brexit economy

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The economy is showing positive signs. Now it's time to roll up our sleeves and show that post-Brexit Britain can shine

Liam Halligan
30 JANUARY 2020 • 1:31PM


“The country’s finished,” snapped Hugh Grant last week, when asked about developments in the UK since mid-December. While an accomplished actor, when it comes to political and economic analysis the Notting Hill star fluffed his lines. For whether Grant likes it or not, Boris Johnson’s emphatic election victory has sparked a burst of business optimism. Clarity on Brexit triggered a strong economic uptick in January, after three and a half years of political deadlock.

Just look at this chart:
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Brexit is getting done - and businesses confidence is booming
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The chart has 1 X axis displaying Time. Range: 2017-01-20 01:12:00 to 2020-02-10 22:48:00.
The chart has 1 Y axis displaying Above 50 indicates growth. Range: 47.5 to 57.5.

View as data table. Brexit is getting done - and businesses confidence is booming

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It shows the economy just recorded its best month in over a year. Confidence among manufacturers saw its sharpest rise on record.

Firms also took on more staff, with permanent hiring up in January for the first time since 2018. Ending the Brexit stand-off also inspired consumer confidence, as house purchases and car sales picked up.

This “Boris Bounce” was confirmed by the International Monetary Fund, which has just upgraded its 2020 UK growth estimate, despite lowering forecasts elsewhere. Britain is set to expand 1.4 per cent this year – faster than France, Germany and the eurozone as a whole - and exports are set to outstrip the rest of Europe as new trade opportunities present themselves:

Brexit bounce
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British exports are expected to outperform the rest of Europe in terms of growth this year
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The chart has 1 Y axis displaying Expected growth in exports ($bn). Range: 0 to 100.

View as data table. Brexit bounce

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With the UK high up the G7 growth league, and Brexit uncertainty tamed, chief executives across the world are channelling a wave of cash towards Britain, seen as an increasingly stable investment destination in a world best by political and economic turmoil.


The government, after ten years of tight spending, is also loosening the public purse strings. The budget deficit is down from a ruinous 10 per cent of GDP after the 2008 financial crisis to under 2 per cent now. That’s why Chancellor Sajid Javid unveiled an extra £14 billion in public spending in September, the largest rise in 15 years.

With tax revenues recently buoyant and borrowing lower than expected, there’s more to come in next month’s budget – which will unleash further public investment.

The government now needs to lay out its post-Brexit policy agenda – as Westminster regains control of Britain’s laws, borders and money. Freed from EU “structural fund” restrictions, an active regional policy can close the productivity gap between the South East and elsewhere. That means far more widespread infrastructure spending – in my view, diverting funds earmarked for HS2 towards regional commuter services.

A dozen low-tax “free ports” – stymied under EU rules – would similarly help spread wealth across the regions. So too would strong post-Brexit agricultural and fishery policies, shifting subsidies towards smaller farmers while reclaiming UK fishing grounds. Our sovereign industrial policy should avoid “picking winners”, but be based instead on low, simple taxation – slashing business rates to help struggling high street retailers, amidst other carefully targeted tax breaks.


As well as world-class transport and broadband connectivity, we also need, despite incoming migration controls, a steady supply of labour – which means better skills. Securing a high-wage, high-productivity economy requires vocational training to be at the heart of the UK post-Brexit policy mix, with its own dedicated Cabinet position. There need not be an erosion of workers’ rights and a regulatory race to the bottom and, despite scaremongering, I don’t believe there will be – not least as our own Parliament will be in charge, with the Tories keen to retain support in newly-won seats in former Labour heartlands seats.

Although Brexit has now legally happened, we need more certainty regarding our ongoing EU relationship, of course. In the upcoming trade talks, before the no-change “implementation period” ends in December, the UK is once again well placed.

While negotiating with a hapless Theresa May, the Brussels-based eurocrats still had a chance of reversing Brexit, so were allowed to dictate the EU’s strategy. But with Johnson controlling the Commons and Brexit “done”, EU governments know this is now all about damage limitation – and will be more heavily involved.

Leaders of EU member states and their business lobbies know Britain’s £94 billion EU trade deficit translates into billions of euros of profit and millions of EU jobs. We need to wake up to our strengths, dismissing eurocrat attempts at “sequencing” from the outset. All issues should be addressed simultaneously, including Britain’s on-going defence, security and intelligence commitment, which in the EU’s eyes is priceless.


Far too much is still being made of the EU’s “formidable bargaining power”. Really? Emmanuel Macron is besieged by protesters and lagging hard-right Marine Le Pen in opinion polls. Angela Merkel is bowing out of public life as Germany’s economy stagnates, her ruling coalition in tatters.

We want our European neighbours to prosper, of course, but let’s not be intimidated. The UK was judged “the best place in the world to do business” by Forbes Magazine for the last two years in a row. We boast seven of the top 40 universities on earth – the EU has none.

“There goes the neighbourhood,” tweeted Hugh Grant on election night, as Johnson secured his majority, embodying the patronising, anti-democratic attitudes of a cosseted liberal elite. The rest of the country, meanwhile, wants to roll up its sleeves and show that post-Brexit Britain can shine.


Good to read this as I wake up to the first day of a new era in the UK

As I read on to catch up with the thread I hope to find a new wave of positivity from the diehards and this article should have helped

I do not know what it is like in Manchester today, but FWIW where I live it is a blue sky and sunny this morning - as is entirely appropriate
 
I am a proud englishman and british person, but that bunch on that video are an embarrassment to our nation.

We could go on a spree posting Twitter videos from every side it doesn't help at all does it? Look at some of those replies? Social media is a disease and it's infecting everyone who searches for rubbish that feeds their own narrative, a very vocal minority looking to get offended at everything they see.
 
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